WHO will be Hollywood's Next Sexual Assaulter??

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Americunt, Nov 11, 2017.

  1. Deidre

    Deidre Visitor

    When I say ''evidence'' ...I mean, of the individual cases. There are good and bad studies out there. There is validity in these studies.

    In our culture, we are taught as women to play the victim when it's convenient and to be tough when it's convenient. I don't like that. As a woman, it insults me. I don't need a movement to tell me how to be or how to view myself.

    We all think differently on this, but that's how I see the media portraying women, in general. On the one hand we don't need men, or shouldn't need men, but then we suddenly need men to defend us from every bad decision we make? lol No...the Hollywood scandals involving women who willingly slept with directors, etc...sorry, that's not rape. If a guy tells you to sleep with him or you lose your job, and you do it...that's not rape. That's wrong, the guy is a predator, but it's not a crime. I'm not against #metoo, but I think it is starting to portray women as helpless victims, and using men as scapegoats for bad decisions that we make.

    Rape is a crime. And should always be treated as such. But, many of these women weren't raped. Or assaulted. They did things they didn't wish to do, but they chose their careers over their values/bodies, is what actually sounds like happened. It's wrong what those men did, but those women could have said 'no.' Some of them did. Those are the women I admire...I don't admire women who sleep with men to get ahead, and then cry assault decades later.

    That's more of my point.
     
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  2. GLENGLEN

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    Wish He Would Do That To Moi...LOL...:tongueout:



    Cheers Glen.
     
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  3. Vanilla Gorilla

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    The James Franco one, she is on the couch with James Franco, which probably means sharing a joint or two, watching whatever, he grabbed a boob or her ass or sonething, and thats it, somehow thats a victim.

    You are snuggled in the couch, maybe a liitle stoned, James franco looks at you with those eyes, tell me you are then not going to want to have him tear off your panties with his teeth. I heard that one, and i thought, wow frigid much.

    Same with the one that made claims about an early 90s Patrick Swayze, oh the super hot guy from dirty dancing tried to kiss you did he? How difficult that must have been
     
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  4. Meliai

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    yeah i think most women have been there, in one of these hideously awkward, uncomfortable sexual encounters. She honestly just sounds hopelessly young and naive, too afraid to speak up and say "no dude, you're not good at this and i'm not turned on and i'm leaving."

    I blame the blog that broke this story more than I blame her, they shouldn't have conflated regret sex with sexual assault and published the piece to begin with, it was irresponsible.

    oh. i hear you. I guess we are talking about two different things. I am talking strictly of cases where the accusation actually meets the legal definition of assault and rape.

    I don't think cases where women conflate regret sex with sexual assault would hold up in a court of law, which is why you aren't really seeing these cases making it to court. But unfortunately in the celebrity world the court of public opinion still has enough sway to ruin their careers.

    I am 100% in agreement that women have the agency to say no...
    although I think there are some shades of grey there when a powerful Hollywood producer, for example, is threatening someone's career.

    Coercion is a whole other thing and i'm not sure why holding a woman's career over their head in exchange for sexual favors should just be acceptable in Hollywood when it wouldn't be acceptable in any other industry. And in that case it truly does seem like like poetic justice that someone like Harvey Weinsten has had his career ruined for using his power in Hollywood as a means of sexual coercion.

    Aziz Ansari and any similar situation is a whole other beast though and the idea that he did something wrong does suggest that women have no agency to simply say no, put their clothes on, and go home. I am in agreement with you there.
     
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  5. Deidre

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    lol I forgot about James Franco...he's the only good looking one who has been accused, recently.
     
  6. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    This Inside Edition report supports both sides Scott Baio and Nicole Eggert in another he said/she said saga

     
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  7. Deidre

    Deidre Visitor

    Yes, totallyyyy agree wbout Weinstein. And everything else you said.

    I totally get where you're coming from, in the other posts, as well. It can be hard to convey points just with words sometimes, but I appreciate you understanding where I was coming from, and I agree with your points, here.

    It's weird, before getting married, I was never into one night stands. Not that rape can't happen in a relationship, it can. But, men would test the waters with me, seeing if I'd have sex, barely knowing them...and it always felt too risky. On numerous levels. Disease, getting pregnant by a guy I don't even know, and potentially being raped and chopped up into little pieces, always crossed my mind. lol This doesn't mean that going back to a guy's place means that sex is a given (or that he should assume that), but being cautious can never be underrated.

    Regarding Weinstein, why hasn't this guy been brought up on charges? I'm just throwing that question out there to anyone here. I think he is someone who should be incarcerated, from all that I've learned about him.
     
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  8. Irminsul

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    OMG are you seriously disregarding my claims!
     
  9. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    ^^^

    Regarding Weinstein, LA Prosecutors and the Manhattan D.A. are putting together cases against him, it’s only a matter of time
     
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  10. Deidre

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    Okay, thanks for the info. He sounds like a danger to society, honestly. Guess we'll see what ends up happening.
     
  11. Vanilla Gorilla

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    If he grabbed my ass, i'd then have to handcuff him to a water heater so he couldnt run away.
     
  12. Vanilla Gorilla

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    I wanted to see this "I love you Daddy" movie because i'd watch anything with Malkovich in it. Watch him mow the lawns for two hours as long as he was saying crazy, funny stuff..

    Also be interesting because the storyline sounds creepy but Malkovich would get away with it, one of those interesting but ugly types where the interesting transcends the not so attractive.

    But thanks to Louis C.K, may nevet be released
     
  13. Vanilla Gorilla

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    So it turms out Weinstein technically didnt rape Rose McGowan

    ‘My clothes are getting peeled off me’




    So forced(maybe) Oral sex (on her) then he jerked off into the jacuzzi


    McGowan was the most public face against Weinstein......so why keep this small little detail from the public....until a tell all book comes out

    Because she knows how it sounds. Shes in a hotel room alone with a movie producer, jacuzzi probably already fired up 1/2 an hour before

    Forced oral sex? How likely is that with him vs her

    Maybe it was forced oral sex, but why tell everyone he raped her for over 20 years

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  14. Irminsul

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    Umm, if I didn't want someone going down on me, I'd keep slamming my knees together.
     
  15. Eric!

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    Hollywood's next Sexual Assaulter?

    Nasty Nate


     
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  16. Pete's Draggin'

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    George Clooney
     
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  17. Noserider

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    Ya think? He always comes across as a super nice guy.
     
  18. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

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    Am I being detained?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?
     
  19. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Got to wait till he is not hot anymore, then yeah there wil be some makeup artist on Batman forever he had to squeeze past in a lift
     
  20. Kerri

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    I don’t know what the truth is but forced oral sex, if that did happen, is rape
     

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