Who sinned first? Man, Satan or God?

Are you really this dull?

Sure, if I told you that if you drink that poison you will die and you drink the poison and die, then I should be "rightfully jailed for murder".

And what about Satan, who said if you drink that poison you will not die? What should be done with him?

Are you really trying to pass this off as some kind of thinking on your part?

 

Just can't give up your obfuscation and circular reasoning can you.

 

No, just saying that you still haven't figured out your spirit buddy is pulling the wool over your eyes.

 

No evasion, just thought you might be intelligent enough to remember that I had already answered these questions for you. Guess I just over rated your intelligence. Sorry.

 

And God judges by all capable for the moment of the pureness of passing becoming into passing away. The morals are fleeting. God judges; satan is judged; man only foolishly believes. If only He knew his Ego was not the time for his task, the timelessness for ego was as good as to need God.:sultan:

 

thedope:

I did exactly as you asked. What are you talking about?

 

You deny the holy spirit in me?

 

Wait... guys... good and evil are all relative. There isn't such a thing as sin in the first place. It's just a false system of "morality" imposed on us by controllers who use our tendency to seek "holier than thou" status, controllers who convince themselves as well. There is no such thing as power. There is no such thing as wealth. There is no such thing as good or evil, though there is such a thing as helping others vs. exploiting them. These are all lifestyle choices made to look like universal concepts, when in fact, they aren't at all (although, I would certainly rather people helped each other than exploit). It's kind of like time. We put increments on it to measure out our silly little mundane, routine based lives, when in reality there are no increments and it flows by us steadily

There are positive and negative consciousness concepts that are universal for humans, which would best be placed under the category of "fear" and "love"

 

Sin is a fearful thought.

 

In such an arrangement of relatively feared Evil the holy spirit is absolute, but fellows you also wish Good be available for success, lovingly recognized worth, and happy deeds. Something has to be absolute. Why not the holy spirit by the blessings of the Catholic Church?

 

How would you know?

How do you know he didn't?

The bible only records what you call one consequence but that does not mean that "A & E" were not aware of the entire scope of the consequences of their actions.

Again, we do not know if there were any omissions.

True but interestingly, "A & E" did not. Which would seem to indicate "A & E" were not as uninformed as you seem to think.

You seem to think so but things are not always what they seem.

This is just run away speculation on your part. God did not put Satan "right beside" Eve and God's "power of deception" was not channeled through Satan. Satan went rogue and put himself right beside Eve and used his own power of deception.

 

Which should show you that your spirit buddy is deceiving you.

 

Oh, I don't deny you think it is the Holy Spirit, it just isn't.

 

So regardless my thoughts you have judged against the holy spirit in me. I see and so does your god who knows you in secret. How then can you redeem yourself?

 

No dear you misunderstand. I asked for something that means something as you requested and came to my mind by urging of the holy spirit to ask you to please be specific, please respond in a way that means something regarding your accusations, i.e.

regarding this post:

 

You distort the scenario. The drink was not poison, just knowledge. The poison was God via locking away the tree of life.

Was that A & E just dying or was that God murdering them by intent and neglect.

I will ignore your last ignorance in case you actually want to work this issue. Doubtful so far.

Regards
DL

 

Cop out. We speak for all here not just you and I.

But thanks. You gave served my purposes well just by being you.

Regards
DL

 

That is why I judge bible God. I judge him by his own standards and I find him guilty of much. Those who do not do not know how to judge.

Regards
DL

 

Huh? He who lies in little lies in much meaning a small inaccuracy has the same effect as a large one. Judge not by appearances but rather use right judgement. To judge against is not right judgement.

What is false is not true by definition and what is not true is not real and what is not real does not exist and cannot affect anything. Right judgement in this instance is to disregard the not true and be vigilant only for truth.

 

You are quite good at saying nothing useful. You show memory but poor thinking. You are quite educated but not too bright.

Regards
DL