who owns teachers?

Duck · May 1, 2013

BBAD said:

they own us with their fucking unions and pension package
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Meagain said:

BBAD,

Do you know anything about Unions or Teacher's Unions?
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It all depends on the state, really.

Pennsylvania's teacher unions are ridiculously powerful; in most areas they can retire in 30 years, get a real nice pension and are virtually impossible to fire. And they still go on strike constantly for better contracts. Some districts have been having problems with strikes every year.

rollingalong · May 1, 2013

the teachers pension in canada is among the strongest in the world....for awhile they owned the leafs and raptors

MamaPeace · May 1, 2013

I only had 2 teachers I liked and that liked me.

One would tell me I saw the world differently and inspired me to put my feelings into art, she also taught me one on one kick boxing/self defense after school.

The other helped me through depression, eating disorders, drug and alcohol abuse and inspired me to start writing stories and poems. I am still in contact with her and we meet up occasionally for coffee. She changed my life.

MeAgain · May 1, 2013

Cherea,

As Duck said they vary from state to state, but tell me, how do they hinder your work? And what is your work, and where do you work?

Duck,

Pennsylvania's teacher unions are ridiculously powerful; in most areas they can retire in 30 years, get a real nice pension and are virtually impossible to fire. And they still go on strike constantly for better contracts. Some districts have been having problems with strikes every year.
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Actually in PA a teacher can retire and receive a pension after becoming vested, which is currently after 5 years. You just don't get much, as in almost nothing.

To get "full" retirement you must have worked 35 years or be age 60 with 30 years of work.

"Full" retirement is an average of the three highest years of salary times 2%, times the years of service. Which works out to about 70% of your current salary, or so.

A $60,000 a year salary after 35 years would get you about $42,000 a year. Health benefits are $100.00 a month which you can use to buy insurance.
The average teacher pension in PA is $22,000.

There are no "most areas", all areas of the state are the same, as it is a state retirement system.

Employees contribute around 7.5% of every check and the state was, by law, supposed to also contribute. But the state has refused to contribute for the last 10 years, as the stock market was high...then the market crashed. There have been no cost of living raises for about 15 years.

Tenured Teachers in PA can be fired for incompetence, intolerance, immorality, persistent negligence, failure of a background check, and cruelty. All that is needed is documentation.

Governor Corbett cut 1.1 Billion dollars to PA schools last year resulting in a large number of layoffs, cut programs, and a shift of the tax burden to local citizens.

EL Tuna · May 1, 2013

To think, I love baseball, But we pay millions to 'watch' a person and learn from. But the one you come into 'contact' with, Might make over 1 million in their career, 30+.

Plus the sad thing, The guy putting on the show for you, Actually cares more about you and your education. Not all teachers are worthless, But few and far between one who goes the extra step anymore.
To each their own I guess

I'minmyunderwear · May 1, 2013

next thread: who owns tee shirts?

Duck · May 2, 2013

Meagain said:

Cherea,

As Duck said they vary from state to state, but tell me, how do they hinder your work? And what is your work, and where do you work?

Duck,

Actually in PA a teacher can retire and receive a pension after becoming vested, which is currently after 5 years. You just don't get much, as in almost nothing.

To get "full" retirement you must have worked 35 years or be age 60 with 30 years of work.

"Full" retirement is an average of the three highest years of salary times 2%, times the years of service. Which works out to about 70% of your current salary, or so.

A $60,000 a year salary after 35 years would get you about $42,000 a year. Health benefits are $100.00 a month which you can use to buy insurance.
The average teacher pension in PA is $22,000.

There are no "most areas", all areas of the state are the same, as it is a state retirement system.

Employees contribute around 7.5% of every check and the state was, by law, supposed to also contribute. But the state has refused to contribute for the last 10 years, as the stock market was high...then the market crashed. There have been no cost of living raises for about 15 years.

Tenured Teachers in PA can be fired for incompetence, intolerance, immorality, persistent negligence, failure of a background check, and cruelty. All that is needed is documentation.

Governor Corbett cut 1.1 Billion dollars to PA schools last year resulting in a large number of layoffs, cut programs, and a shift of the tax burden to local citizens.
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Thank you for the corrections and clarifications.

My understanding was based on what was told to me by teachers, fellow students and parents of students.

There was one teacher at a Pittsburgh Public School that they were reportedly trying to fire for years, but couldn't until he got caught letting a student use his computer. In light of this new information, I'm unsure if this was just a rumor, or if that documentation needs to be pretty solid.

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