Who likes being addicted?

Discussion in 'Psychedelics' started by Codmouse, Jul 11, 2009.

  1. MaryJBlaze

    MaryJBlaze eleven

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    strange how happiness and addiction mean the same thing to you
     
  2. Codmouse

    Codmouse Senior Member

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    Certainly is, isn't it?
     
  3. standingseated

    standingseated A Back Scrubber

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    When you're addicted to something, getting it doesn't make you feel happy. It makes you feel relieved.

    People misuse the word addiction very, very often. Some idiots go so far as to say cigarettes are more addicting than heroin. They are misusing the term.

    When you are addicted to something, your body NEEDS that something in order to function AT ALL. If you are a serious junkie and you suddenly stop taking heroin altogether, you could die. That is addiction.

    When you're a junkie and you get your fix, you feel normal. That's it. Normal. You don't take the drug to get off anymore. You take it to keep from getting sick.

    There's nothing at all for anyone to like about being addicted.
     
  4. Magical mystery tourguide

    Magical mystery tourguide Senior Member

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    Yeah, I don't think Codemouse meant hardcore physical addiction like that, more like a psychological dependancy. When I used to smoke pot more then 3x a day, I loved it. I loved the feeling that I would need my daily dose of THC every day, and once I did everything was alllllllllllright. But I don't think anyone could consider true physical addiction fun.

    But yeah, I love psychological addiction.
     
  5. Codmouse

    Codmouse Senior Member

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    Well, whatever it is I am describing I like a lot. (Possibly psychological addiction vs. physical?)

    :D

    EDIT I had the reply windows open forever. Magical is right though. Thought what I did. "Great minds think alike"
     
  6. FreshDacre

    FreshDacre Senior Member

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    I completely disagree. Mabey thats how it is for certain people in certain addictions but with my experience in addiction is that it makes me truley happy and that i'm getting the most i can out of life.
     
  7. DeadHead723

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    your a druggie....:cool:
     
  8. FreshDacre

    FreshDacre Senior Member

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    Lol no. I know that being addicted to heroin might be fun but I don't mess with stuff that is bad for my body its not even close to being worth it because i want to live a long life. When i'm old i probably will do alot of heroin though cause nothing will matter.
     
  9. NNDimethyltryptaDream

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    Why create a thread to be a smart ass? I think if you find joy in losing interest in all other parts of your life, loss of self control, and what ever fucked up state induced by, and without the drugs induces, then you should seek some serious help. Clearly youve never been truely addicted.
     
  10. Codmouse

    Codmouse Senior Member

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    This isn't a smart ass thread. Sorry you had a bad experience. Maybe you shouldn't be in the drug section if you let addiction turn into losing interest....


    1ad·dict
    Pronunciation:
    \ə-ˈdikt\
    Function:
    transitive verb
    Etymology:
    Latin addictus, past participle of addicere to favor, from ad- + dicere to say — more at diction
    Date:
    1534
    1 : to devote or surrender (oneself) to something habitually or obsessively <addicted to gambling>
    2 : to cause addiction to a substance in (a person or animal)

    It doesn't say anything about losing interest there. I know when I was addicted to cigs that I didn't lose interest in everything... As mentioned above, some addictions are different. Mostly though, they are not controlling to the point of loosing interest in everything.

    I still stand my ground. Addiction is fun.
     
  11. DeadHead723

    DeadHead723 Senior Member

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    your insane. "addiction is fun"??? what are you talking about??
     
  12. Codmouse

    Codmouse Senior Member

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    Deadhead, every post I read of yours you amaze me.

    Read the thread
     
  13. DeadHead723

    DeadHead723 Senior Member

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    you stand your ground that addiction is fun.....

    on what the GROUNDS youve never actually been physically addicted to drugs and your just talking out of your ass???
     
  14. Codmouse

    Codmouse Senior Member

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    Ok, so let me guess. Only heroin addiction is REAL addiction?

    I am sure a 19 year old can teach me all about real addiction, right? BTW, I am happy that you know me as well as you do. :\
     
  15. DeadHead723

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    plenty of other drugs other than heroin buddy.

    i couldnt teach you personally, but my two cousins can. were talking real addictions to heroin/opiates, the other alcohol/cocaine. im sure their having "fun" losing their homes, custody of their children, and trust of their loved ones.

    maybe a 19 year old who has seen real addiction first hand CAN teach an ignorant 22 year old.
     
  16. standingseated

    standingseated A Back Scrubber

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    Sorry, it's just kinda funny to see a 22 year old play the age card on a 19 year old.

    Allow me a moment.

    I went through a phase where I willfully cultivated my addictions. That was the phrase I used. I kept it simple, though. Just nicotene and alcohol...I did my best to develop a weed addiction...but it just never happened for me. Why I did this, I have no idea. I guess I thought that all great writers have addictions so they can write from experience about man-vs-himself struggles. But I worked much harder at the getting addicted thing than the actual writing thing.

    I still think there's something kinda romantic about becoming a junkie. I think about some of the great junkies of the past-- writers, musicians, philosophers...From DeQuincey to Burroughs, from Charlie Parker to Layne Staley. Junk often seems to let artists really become themselves, to find their voice.

    And, I know from my experience, that being addicted to something is really one of the worst experiences a person can have. I ended up spending time and money chasing after something that was killing me instead of really living my life. I drank my way out of school. I drank myself out of jobs. I drank my way out of relationships. I drank myself right out of hope and self-respect.

    And you can say, "Wow, well, you're just a loser who can't hold his shit together..." Alright, well, that's what it is to be an addict. You give control over your life to a substance. And that substance kills you-- often just a little at a time for decades.

    So I think about how proud I was of my phrase, "cultivating my addictions" and I want to slap myself. And then I want to slap you. You should know better.

    But I can't blame you. I was like that, too.
     
  17. standingseated

    standingseated A Back Scrubber

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    That's how you play the age card. You have to reveal yourself to the point of embarrassing the younger guy. I think I fell just short of that. Maybe if I'd had a couple good belts before I started typing...
     
  18. Codmouse

    Codmouse Senior Member

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    Just because your family can't handle addiction doesn't mean the rest of the world can't. My own father is heavily addicted to opiates and has been for more then 10 years. He still has a job. He bought a house and raised good kids. He isn't a looser in his community. He is perfectly fine.

    We all know of the losers who can't deal with drugs or addiction. We have all seen it on intervention... Everyone has a drugged out looser in the family, so I don't want to hear about your cousins.

    "Thats what it is to be an addict"

    No, thats not what it is to be an addict. The definition is right there. My dad is doing fine. I have always been able to quit. That is your definition of an addict.

    FYI everyone, since its getting retarded. I have been addicted to a FEW things. Cigs, alcohol, oxycodone, and meth. Not at the same time.

    Only people who waste their lives are "real" addicts? I don't think so. There are serveral examples of how people have been addicted and carried on a normal life. I have had a few times it started to get out of control like everyone. But knowing that it is turning into a problem is all you need to do. As soon as I realized it was turning into something bad I stopped or turned it down a lot. This type of thing is easy as hell to see yourself. If not, then there is family/friends who tell you.

    I am sick of hearing people say that being addicted is so tough. If you let it take over your life, then you just have zero will power and no ambition.
     
  19. Codmouse

    Codmouse Senior Member

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    Not even close.

    Although I am young, I would take advice from an older person way before anything else. A teenager that has probably lived in one place his entire life though? Get real...

    EDIT BTW, your advice is different from what I have seen and experienced. Why do people think addiction and a normal life is impossible? Nothings impossible.
     
  20. standingseated

    standingseated A Back Scrubber

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    I suppose junkies who are getting their government-bought fix from a doctor might live a reasonably normal life. But people who get hooked on things usually do so while generally pursuing a destructive path through their lives.


    If you can see that your use of a substance is taking you down a destructive path and stop yourself, you are only stopping yourself by breaking your addiction. Good for you!

    It took me too many years to be able to see it and stop it.

    Also, I'm really sorry about your dad. Must suck for him. But good for him that he's keeping it going. You must live somewhere where junkies aren't reduced to crime and buggery and such to get their fix.
     

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