Who is a bigger “crooked criminal”? Joe Biden, Donald Trump, or Both?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Xboxoneandsports32490, May 17, 2024.

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Which Politican is a bigger crook/criminal that deserves jail/prison? Joe Biden or Donald Trump?

Poll closed May 31, 2024.
  1. President Joe Biden

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  2. Donald Trump

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  3. Both: I believe both these politicians are equally as corrupt

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  4. Neither: I don’t believe either of these men should be in prison/jail

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  1. Xboxoneandsports32490

    Xboxoneandsports32490 Members

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    Wanna get some input on maybe which candidate would perhaps be “The Lesser of the Two Evils” so to speak? Out of Trump/Biden: Who do you see as a bigger “crook/criminal” or “most likely should be “locked up or in prison”? Donald Trump or Joe Biden? Also I gave 2 other choices: If you think both men are good politicians and are innocent, or if you think both of them are bad leaders and equally bad for the country? Thank you for your time and input.
     
  2. princess peedge

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    The case for Trump has already been presented: two impeachments, a failed treasonous coup, and a near-constsnt presence in courtrooms since his presidency ended.

    But what specific crimes has Joe Biden committed? And what reliable source can I use to verify this information?
     
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  3. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    It's an easy choice. I'm voting for the candidate (and party) who aren't supported by the Ku Klux Klan, neo-Nazis, neo-Fascists, neo-Confederates, the American Taliban, the Oathkeepers, Proud Boys, Q-Anon, homophobes, xenophobes, misogynists, misanthropes, racists, bigots, and various and sundry other knuckle-draggers and deplorables.

    PRO TIP:
    If people start throwing up barricades, look around you. If you're surrounded by white hoods and brown shirts, YOU'RE ON THE WRONG FUCKING SIDE!

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  4. Echtwelniet

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    Mzzls
     
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  5. scratcho

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    :D:D--Good one!!
     
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  6. wilsjane

    wilsjane Nutty Professor HipForums Supporter

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    With the parties being sponsored by parasitic corporations who make billions by selling imported goods without providing a single job in the US, how can they have the nerve to criticise the presidential candidates.
    They are obviously looking for the most corrupt person, who has not been found out.
    Since the parties also treat the media like puppets, what hope is there for the decent law abiding citizens who are left to choose between the lesser of two evils.

    With the party supporters being a bunch of cowboys, no wonder they never promote anyone who even mentions gun laws, or creating decent honest jobs. :D
     
  7. Piobaire

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    "...the United States could have avoided 400,000 COVID deaths if the Trump administration had implemented a more effective health strategy that included mask mandates, social distancing, and robust testing guidelines. (Dr. Deborah) Birx made a similar statement at that time.
    We’ve long known that Trump did the opposite of what public health experts advised. More concerned with his own standing in the polls than with the health and safety of the citizenry, Trump dismissed or minimized the threat and sent a mixed message on masks, social distancing, and testing. The new revelations from the committee (Select Committee on the Coronavirus Crisis) underscore his immense negligence and dereliction of duty that led to the preventable deaths of hundreds of thousands."
    New Revelations Emerge on How Donald Trump Killed 400,000 (or More) Americans

    So, how many Americans has Joe Biden killed?

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  8. Piney

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    I would blame those who subletted research on gain of function to the lab in Wuhan where the virus escaped. Blame those who covered up this scandal. Who profited?

    The Virus research could have been done domesticaly where standards are higher and jobs created. We are being B.S.'d on covid. its a lot more than one individual.
     
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  9. wilsjane

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    I was about to wade in and tell you that it was all fake news. But when I looked at the world health authority figures to support my statements, I discovered to my complete horror, that what you say is largely true.

    This leaves we wondering why the 2020 increase in mortality in the UK was 1.7% up on 2019 and lower than 2017.
    Here are the reasons.
    When a nasty virus strikes, while it finishes off people at the end of their life between 3 and 21 days earlier. However, in one in a thousand healthy people, the virus turns bacterial leading to septicemia which results in death without ICU treatment.
    In the UK, as a result of our restrictions the spread of the virus was slowed down, ICU units were not overwhelmed and these people survived.

    While in hindsight, our restrictions were somewhat over the top, no one is complaining.
    Unfortunately, in the US, everything went belly up. Trump may not have needed to pass laws, but if competent doctors had explained the full facts, many people would have worn masks and avoided large gatherings, slowed the virus down resulting in thousands of lives being saved. Trump seemed to do the complete reverse.
    My concerns are whether people would have listened to the advice, or got their guns out instead.
    Also whether the fragmented health service would have been able to triage the thousands of people arriving at the hospitals to get the one in a thousand who needed the treatment into ICU in time.

    We only managed it by the skin of our teeth, sending 99% of the arrivals home, telling them to stay in bed for 3 days, take paracetamol and immediately call for an ambulance if they had trouble breathing (bacterial lung infection), or passing urine (bacterial kidney infection). These are the two conditions that are only a few steps away from death.
    Thank God it worked, but only with hundreds of doctors and nurses working six twelve hour shifts a week, for several months.

    So was the problem Trump, the health service, or the attitudes of so many American people. You can judge that one far better than I can.
     
  10. newo

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    Stupid question. Obviously Trump is a far bigger crook, in fact I don't believe I'd go as far as to call Biden a crook, at least not as far as politicians go. Trump must be sent packing in November, we can't face another 4 years of him in the White House.
     
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    Anyone who finds themselves in a seat of power - whether it is in the business or political world - they know things and do things that only the truly powerful people know and do... corruption for personal gain is a huge temptation. That being said, I have not seen anything in Biden that shows me he is a crook, or corrupt. To me, he is a good man. Trump, on the other hand, is not what I would consider a good person at all. I have wondered if he or his family has regretted his decision to run and to become president. Before this, those who worked for and with him, knew what he was all about - but in that world, it was largely just the way it is... but to place himself in the office of the presidency, he has had his business and personal life exposed and pealed back to see what he really is. His "art of the deal" is based in backroom deals and corrupt business practices. And his behavior and actions at president and after he lost the last election, with the classified documents, etc. shows just how bad he really is.
    And, yet - we really only know the tip of this iceberg.
     
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    There are plenty of people who have accused Joe of being a pedophile which enrages me. He is a touchy-feely guy. I get it. I am the same way. I like to touch people, but I have learned that a lot of people - especially the generations after me - seem to be all weird about it. I blame this as a consequence and a fall-out of the #metoo movement - where men took advantage of women to get sexual favors - but it has changed attitudes in general and has caused people to be more cautious on expressions of genuine affection. I've had arguments with my adult children about this - they say it's creepy that Joe "smelled little girls' hair" or embraced and touched people without their permission. I know this whole thing has made me less willing to express my natural tendencies to touch or hug someone.
    I do not think Joe Biden deserves the criticism he has received - and it appalls me that Donald Trump seems to be made of Teflon.
     
  14. newo

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    The defense has rested and we'll hear the closing arguments in the Hush Money Trial next Tuesday, and if the jury doesn't reach a verdict immediately we should hear it by the end of next week. Then we'll know DJT's fate (and our fate for that matter!).
     
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  15. princess peedge

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    I've got to say, Joe Biden smelling girls' hair is creepy. Also, there is nothing weird about an aversion to being touched by an 80 year old man, and it is not the consequence of the me too movement. Women were being violated and touched against their will long before me too. Me too was a teaching moment to try and educate men on why we found this behavior problematic. Biden's definitely from another time, but has shown he is willing to educate and modernize himself. I don't care for Biden's behavior, but I'd hardly classify it as criminal behavior.

    I'm not a Biden stan, but this idea that Biden is a "crooked criminal" on par with--or beyond that of--Donald Trump is laughable.
     
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    Anyone that has trouble discerning the answer to the question probably needs help tying their shoes. :cool:
     
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    yeah - OK - I have had to adjust and modernize myself as well - but I don't like it. And as a man in my late 60s, I think the lack of genuine affection between people who care about other people is a great loss for our culture and among people in general. Biden was not smelling anybody's hair. He was planting a closed-mouth kiss on the top of a child's head. That is so not pedophilia. If it is creepy, then you are entitled to think it is creepy. But, I'll tell ya - planting a kiss on a person's head is a lot less creepy than placing your hand up someone's dress in a fancy department store. That's creepy.
     
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    Even creepier than that is telling a porn star that she reminds him of his daughter Ivanka…..and while having sex with this porn star
     
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