Which Countries Are Actually Socialist?

Discussion in 'Socialism' started by Motion, Jun 28, 2011.

  1. Anaximenes

    Anaximenes Senior Member

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    Amazing? Then you can't be value neutral over this One. Indonesia.

    Socialists loved this movie about the Sukarno regime:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Year_of_Living_Dangerously_(film)

    But seriously genocide can be caused by nothing racial, but by the rich fat cats owning land and not exchanging their wealth like they say should.:mad:
     
  2. Anaximenes

    Anaximenes Senior Member

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    Kazakhstan is socialist and it will preserve it's environmentallu friendly oil and gas policy with Russia.
     
  3. grayrough

    grayrough Banned

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    That's so encouraging to hear an American asking that question. It's a breakthrough in understanding that countries that practice capitalism don't necessarily have to practice US style capitalism. That is a perverted sort of capitalism with no social conscience in dealing with the needs of the people. The Scandinavian countries are capitalist countries with a great deal to make them very different.

    But alas, the rabid, frothing at the mouth right doesn't want to have anybody look at and understand the small print. It (they) would rather brand all sensible and moderate capitalist systems as nothing but communism and the socalled 'workers' paradise'.
     
  4. ywarpeace

    ywarpeace Ye Old Soul

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    first off grammer, but second the only reason why the USSR ever existed was because of a socialist revolution (October Revolution) led by Vladimir Lenin, Leon Trotsky, Pavel Dybenko those who established the first socialist party in russia and began the formation of the modern USSR that Joesph Stalin took over from Vladimir Lenin. So obviously you need to take your head out of bs web pages and american education books and do some real historical research.

    But the only way a democratic and socialist government could coexist is through a social-democracy which vladimir lenin laid out and should be accredited with the only working socialist form of government to work, but besides the point social democracy is the only thing mathematically would work and that was lenin's main study was scientific marxism theory...all politics is, massively large scale bookkeeping its a numbers game and if you can get each number down project the trends account for liabilities you can run a successful government...to put in laymans terms if you were to change all the politics terms into the cannabis terms any good drug dealer could tell you how to do it,,, essentially government is one giant business and once you mortgage your business its essentially fucked and thats what this country has done the banks own this country mainly goldman & sachs who owns most of these other smaller corporate banks, if you look at obama's cabinet most of them have worker a high position at G&S. corporate/banking greed has ruined this country and the day will come were this regime is ended just as any other great regime in history has
     
  5. Anaximenes

    Anaximenes Senior Member

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    Poland is socialist, though the banking system reacted and no longer is not. Nevertheless you can't create a working socialist government through voting, and the attitude is "live sharing with let-living".
     
  6. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Of course you can get a working socialist government through voting. It only takes a majority ;)
     
  7. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    no country survives for long, by being completely 'socialist', nor by being completely against it.

    socialism just means a country earning its keep, just like it expects its people to.
    there may be practical limits on what it can do,
    but to limit needlessly (otherwise known these days as austerity) what it does,
    is for it to have no reason to exist.
     
  8. Individual

    Individual Senior Member

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    Your response, in my opinion, is the most accurate response to the thread topic.
     
  9. PeatBog

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    The vast majority of countries including the USA have mixed economies. The closest to pure socialism, as has already been mentioned, is Cuba. However, countries like Canada and the nordic countries are closer to socialism having more socialized healthcare and so forth.
     
  10. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    i seriously question that it is even possible, for any country, to be a pure and absolute follower, of ANY ideology, nor to survive long by doing so.

    socialism, though, is less an ideology, then simply a brush, that any nation willing to earn its keep, generally gets tarred with, by those who imagine themselves to potentially get something out of worshiping the artificial construct of symbolic value.

    i'm sorry, but it is NOT the little green pieces of paper, that are unhappy.

    nor is any sort of over all hierarchy, any sort of default condition of realty or the universe.

    there is, quite simply, NO ideology, that is anything other then a means of manufacturing consent.

    no exceptions either way. right, left, up, down or sideways, at all, what so ever, period.
     

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