Which commune is which?

In the evolution of understanding, why not? The only thing that can be threatened in a discussion is our illusions.

 

Actually, I have no problem addressing that one either.

In society today, we lock people who are classed as such up in homes and ensure they will be nothing but a drain on soceity.

It has been proven time and time again that everyone is capable of something. For some that can be works of the mind, look at Stephen Hawkin for example. I have no problem sharing the food I grow in exchange for him sharing the results of his work with me.

Even in homes for people with mental disabilities, what do they get them to do to pass time? Do crafts and make jewelry and such. Who else does things like that? People who live on communes...

Unless someone is predatory, violent or thinks that they deserve to get without giving, there is a place for them in any balanced community as an equal participant.

Those who can't do what is normally part of the life here can do something that will still contribute to it as a whole.

Those who WON'T are beyond help.

 

I don't mind addressing it, but don't like people using what I have said about able people and twisting it and trying to use it against me by saying, so you'd not care for your disabled child or some nonsense.

If you now want to talk about people who want to live in a commune who have some form of disability, then fine. But, that wasn't what was asked.

 

well the disability of the unwilling person is a mental disability. if you know people and how they function healing is possible.

exchange for self-benefit is still egocentric nonetheless.

but still, capacity is the essential question here.

but thanks for the insights tom and gypsy, (and thedope ) but i think i should put my energy into something a little more practical than this forum.

 

Nope, it wasn't the issue being discussed. But seems he brought it up and it only goes to further highlight that his accusations are based on his prejudices, not ours, it seemed easy enough to respond to.

I find it funny (not ha ha type) how people like this will start comparing people who can't do something with them choosing not to do something, and think they are the same.

As for people with disabilities, I don't judge them any differently then I do anyone. If they show a desire to be here and a way they can contribute then they are welcome.

 

Can I come.

 

Translation, if you don't contribute you don't eat.

 

Oh yeah I know, caught onto that pretty early on. But, I won't let anyone make me look like one of them... I'll get nasty!!

Absolutely, there is a big difference between not wanting to lend a hand, and not being so able to do so. Really my only criteria for not living with someone is that they want me to do everything for them.

 

I'm well aware they have their thing going fine; but that doesn't mean I am ready for communal life of any sort yet. I'll be the first to admit that I spend too much money on too much nonsense, spend too much time on the web, have some habits that need breaking, etc - and I'm spending some time getting my own house in order before I throw my lot in with anyone else.

But I should probably just follow your example and work on making sweeping generalizations and picking internet fights.

 

Show me my sweeping generalizations.

And show me where (besides the rare occasion) where I take a conversation from polite discourse to 'picking a fight'.

 

This entire thread.

 

Show me the generalites in this thread and show me where I have picked a fight?