Where's the Beef ???

Discussion in 'Old Hippies' started by darrellkitchen, Mar 22, 2005.

  1. Southernman

    Southernman Boarischer Rebell

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    Oh please, not another new subforum, we have allready OldHippies and YoungHippies. Remember the poll, we had at the old forum, when we realized that there were sometimes more young than old hippies. Most of us posted, no problem, let the kids in. The problem, that nobody reads first in the old threads before starting similar topics again and again was allready there too. After the change to the new forum I thought, may be, we should initiate a FAQ (frequently asked questions) thread to prevent repeated topics, but it didn't work. No lament, but look at my profil under the point 'threads started by Southernman'. For me it's symptomatic, that nearly all threads I started here got no single one answer. May be. the young ones don't know, what I'm talking about and the old ones have no time or are not interessted on the topics which interest a german freak. It's only up to us, to realize 'This is for OLD hippies to rap about the old daze, what's happenin' now and to get it together...'. We are the ones, who have to come more often here and poste, even to subjects outside of our personal interests. It's worth a try.
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  2. darrellkitchen

    darrellkitchen Lifetime Supporter

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    Ahhhh ...

    An FAQ ...

    Now, there's a start ...

    Something that can be posted as a Stickey ... top of the forum for all to read, and re-read, and re-read ...

    Something everyone of the Old Hippies can add to ...

    Something like ...
    • What is an Old Hippie?
    • How Old does one have to be to be considered an Old Hippie?
    • Who was the First Hippie?
    • Where did Hippie Originate?
    • Do Hippies Pray?
    • Is Hippie a Philosophy?
    • If I Post Questions and Im Not An Old Hippie, What Will Happen To My Thread?
    It would be interesting to post a FAQ that can be pasted at the top to educate the newcomer ...

    Again, I solicite ideas ... in the form of a Question and Answer. You can post them here, PM them to me, or E-Mail them to me (darrell@starfleet-ufp.net). Or we can revive your previous Thread, Southernman in the form of a sticky until we have the "perfect" FAQ to replace it with ...

    I'm open ...

    Suggestions ???

    Darrell
     
  3. shameless_heifer

    shameless_heifer Super Moderator

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    Darrell, I was thinking just now, hehehe, that maybe those things that you just listed are already all over the OHF and that perhaps they could be moved to the approprete question. Ya think.
    That would save us a lot of time and typing it again. Well except the ones that have to finger it out, what goes where, but you are WEBMASTERS after all and you know what you are doing.(you do a wonderful job). It's just a suggestion to help us oldies out, we're tired and have arthuritis in our fingers. ;).
     
  4. Rain Foot

    Rain Foot Member

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    Thumbs up on the Faq!


    Now having said that....


    My question/though is where do you draw the wide fuzzy line to say who's and old hippy and whos a young hippy....you see there is a group here that I fit into that is kinda stuck without a home so to speak.

    I'm 40. just turned it this last Feb. I was only 4 when woodstock came and went, 8 when Vietnam ended although I remember watching about it on TV, My best friends brothers were right in the middle of it all and I idolized them and that's where a lot of my "Hippyness" came from.

    I feel like a leftover. Too old to be a "young hippy" and just too young to quite fit what seems to be the "old hippy" age bracket.

    Now, having said that I know I fit more with the Old Hippy crowd. I have friends that were in Vietnam and Woodstock etc...and they have a hard time believing I wasn't there, cause I was...almost, and the influnces that it all had on me were profound and still are to this very day.

    so...

    Where do I belong?

    (Yeah I know this is a post about me, but I really don't care. I'll post where I wish with respect and love to those that are there. I wanted to point out the fact that lines, like fences, can sometimes keep the bad stuff out..but it can keep the good stuff out sometimes too. That's why, growing up on a farm all our fences had gates and all anyone had to do to use the creek that ran through the place was a "hey I'm here" and leave it as they found it. In the 20 years I lived there we only had 1 problem, and that was fixed when we pointed it out. )
     
  5. MattInVegas

    MattInVegas John Denver Mega-Fan

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    "Ask The Old Hippies would be definitive. It says the younger ones can come in and ask questions.
     
  6. WE1

    WE1 Member

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    I don't see a great need to change anything really. But a "Ask The Old Hippies" sub-forum is a good idea in my opinion. That way the young people will have a place to go too ask questions [which is important] and anyone of us who wishes to go into that sub-forum may do so. The last thing I would ever wish to do is create any additional work for someone who is volunteering there time here. So,basically,what I'm saying is: Young people think twice post once. And with that I am satisfied...:)
     
  7. shameless_heifer

    shameless_heifer Super Moderator

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    Rain Foot brings up a question here on what's old and what's new. Also I would wonder where one, like my calf, would go. Some of the younguer hippies out there were raised as hippies. Like the ones brought up in communes and the likes. The ones that were 'born' into it and still live it. GOSH!! it never stops, lol (with you not at you). The things that we put you dear mods and webmatsers through. We are like a bunch of whiney brats. Shame on us for being so ungrateful. We should be paying homage instead of discontent. Myself included cuz I do my share of whinning. Be gental with us y'all kind people with the burden of us all. Blessed are the Mods and Webmasters.
     
  8. MattInVegas

    MattInVegas John Denver Mega-Fan

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    Hmmm. The consensus seems to be: A Subforum would be okay. But, to make everything run more smoothly, Hip Forums will NEED some new blood. Maybe a new MODERATOR or two?
     
  9. gillianwind

    gillianwind Member

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    speaking as a moderatly young hippi I don't have anything in common with some of these children who are calling themselves hippi's when what they really mean is they are druggies who think all it takes to really call oneself a hippi is smoking weed. I smoke a lot of weed that not the problem. My problem is when some stupid kid says someting like why are you people stuck in the sixties I am like ok first of all the name of the site is hippiland not ignoarnt teenager land. Other then that if you know what it means to be a hippi then you can call yourself a hippi dreadlocks a water bong and bell bottoms does nota hippi make.
     
  10. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    I've been wanting either a subforum or an FAQ for a long time (notice I didn't volunteer to write it, though, LOL.)

    It does seem like the same questions, from the younuns come up again and again. And I think it is GOOD to tutor and mentor and teach and learn from young hippies, but some of the questions have been asked again and again.

    Who wants to go through the backlog and see what questions come up the most?
    Hmmm. "Can you be a hippy and still shop at Old Navy?" "Do I have to do dope to be a hippy?" "Take the hippy oathe!" Or "This poll will tell you what "level" hippy you are."

    Maybe we can brainstorm and put together an FAQ, which can then either be a Stickey or a subforum. We used to have an "Ask the Old Hippy" forum a LONG time ago. Who would want to take this on? Someone might.

    Maybe make Skip's book required reading before posting! (j/k ;)

    We'll think of something. Or we'll be Old Hippys and sit around and talk about it for a couple of months.

    Seriously, yeah, a subforum or FAQ or "column" by an Old Hippy would be most beneficial. Then any questions that have already been addressed could gently be refered to the subforum or the FAQ.

    Love to y'all,

    Maggie
     
  11. abudman

    abudman Member

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    I've been out of the loop so long, I didnt know we were having probs. Been too dang busy. Planning my retirement for sometime this summer. Would be sooner but fell off my roof about a month ago, been in the hosp untill 1 week ago. 1 broken arm, multiple fractures of the pelvis, 2 broken hips, 2 broken pubic bones, numerous broken ribs, all fixable though. Gonna be a long recovery tho.
    I kinda like Matts idea, "Ask the hippies".
     
  12. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    im here laughin my ass off,, :p

    ya seriously wouldnt want my opinion,,
    on account im not old enough to have one here,,well i can have one,, but its gotta agree with those over 54's opinion,, or its gotta be wrong,,

    so since im pretty sure its the latter,, i'll abstain from comment in this charade,...:rolleyes:

    but thanx darrell for the comedic relief,, sure seems like the old dayz to me...;)

    AHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA,,TOO FUCKING FUNNY!!!

    LUV~N~LITE

     
  13. shameless_heifer

    shameless_heifer Super Moderator

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    budman so sorry to hear of your painful fall. I'm glad to hear your recovering.
     
  14. Moving_cloud

    Moving_cloud Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Aside from that I do not dwell in considering myself being old (only 51) ... nor being a hippy or whatever ... but oh well … and not being attached to certain subforums even if they are ment to help the old and aged gather, just let me ramble a bit.

    I have been on the forums since 2001 where there were no subforums, avatars, galleries, user control panels and fancy tools … but with or without, wonderful stories have unfolded since and grown up around and many more I wish for to come ... if wishes were not fishes.

    Yet I realize I am moving into a time now where I feel less motivated to hang in the never-ending chat, being someone quiet and not much into chatting anyway … I feel kinda tiredness that even if it is just temporary it is plain. And even looking out for those of like mind seems to take more effort than it did ... looking for connections that last and grow with the changes we share, so that we may go beyond the shallow surface ... yes as deep as we care for, and still deeper … what a blessing. And sometimes there is a need to hold something tangible and look straight into the eyes of the other, or catch a smile that opens worlds not just virtual. Yet simultanously the Hipforums have opened doors to worlds I had not imagined in times without computer. And some opened their world like none would of those I meet on the sometimes quite lonely roads of life. We have learned a bit, I guess.

    And we have changed, too, as much as the forums have from the time when we found this place of exchange so inspiring. There is the crowd sloshing in and out much faster now and we loose sight of the individual as fast, even of those we felt drawn to. There is a flood of information which is just what it is. But there is still the search for real communication. Circles are repeated by others and we still watch the tide of the eternal questions coming and going to bring the flotsam of a million more answers.

    Is this place still good for us is maybe not the question but is it good for those who are ready to come without even yet knowing, driven by their own search for something that makes them feel real. And it is up to us. We are the source ourselfes of any happiness, discomfort, or inspiration. We all can create islands of beauty that speak of a reality beyond the cyber worlds ... each in their own way … and maybe this is all this was about anyway.

    What was the topic .... yeah all I wanted say is, I think we all are doing a fine job, and Thank you, Darrell

    :)

     
  15. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I'm outa time, been on the site too long already so I'll post more later.....

    But for FAQs check out the Philo forum as I've started some under Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, and Ethics. See what ya think. They each take several hours to construct but I'm planning more if anybody likes them. I just pull things from as many sources on the net as I can find then trim, rearrange, edit and reword to please myself.

    I had thought that many other forums could use FAQs but as a new Moderator I don't want to get pushy.
     
  16. shameless_heifer

    shameless_heifer Super Moderator

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    since when is it a charade to communicate. Most of us here are honest about what we think and why. I never heard it said that you can't have an opinion unless you over 50. It looks to me like there has been a platform to fit everyones needs here. The young, the old and the in between. Most of us are helpmates, staying for the LOVE LOVE LOVE. In every society there are disagreements, but this is like our kitchen table were friends of like mind gather to converse and exchange ideas. The Old Hippies have paid their dues to be here. Since it is HIPPIELAND.
    I don't understand what the "BEEF" is. I don't know why ones come here to dis us. But we, the old ones have been dis'd for our beliefs our whole lives. Nothing new here either. It rolls off. WE contenue. Blessed Be.
     
  17. shameless_heifer

    shameless_heifer Super Moderator

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    wow Meagain, that's the way to handle, good job. Thank You for all your efforts.
     
  18. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I'm back...

    Thanks Heifer.

    Now I agree with Heify...this is an open site, where else can the young go if they want to talk to the old dried up people?

    I think what we need is tolerance. Hippieism is not something we earn, like a degree, Its not about attending Woodstock or collecting Beatles albums...I mean CDs....its about how we act now. You can't be an "old" hippie if you aren't one now. Well, you can but then you'd just be an old hippie, as in the past tense, and not a current freaky type person now. Does that make sense?

    So anyway.

    I've been thinking of this for years, at this site, and I think Skip has already provided the answer. What, I think, many of you are seeking is a buffer, insulation, a closed door. Somewhere to kick off your boots, sit around and shoot the bull without outside interference.

    So leave this forum alone, install FAQs as a sticky, and start a Private Forum. They are at the bottom of the main Hip Forums page and currently there is only one. I'm not sure about the mechanism involved, but you must apply for membership to these forums. A FAQ could be inserted in select forums with instructions on how to apply. Then, I assume, any offending members could be banned from that forum only if enough complaints are received. I would suggest a sticky in that forum stateing the rules that apply...like 3 complaints warning, 6 banned...or something...or maybe democratic votes for and againest...whatever. Heck, draw up a whole constitution if you want concerning "citizenship", "Laws", "Avenues of redress", "holding cells" (excuse me I'm getting carried away) and start your own web country! Call it Hippieland..oops, already taken by someone. How 'bout "Freaksville"? Or "Little Woodstock"....pretty lame, huh!!! LOL

    Anyway you could PM invitations too.

    Yeah, well, just an idea.....
    Pretty elist also. LOL!!

    Hey, how about elected offices?....
    ummm, I'll go away now.....
     
  19. darrellkitchen

    darrellkitchen Lifetime Supporter

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  20. darrellkitchen

    darrellkitchen Lifetime Supporter

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    This seems to be the consensus of Skip also, and I support Skips ideas and reasons.

    For reasons Meagain listed, this was practically word-for-word reasons Skip has given me for not supporting a Sub-Forum option ... so what we have is the best option available ... "leave this forum alone, install FAQs as a sticky, and start a Private Forum."

    I might even add, include in the FAQ a list of Private Forums open to the public, and instructions on PM'ing those with PF's that require invitation.
    __________

    I'm having computer problems at home now ... happened yesterday afternoon while I was at work ... Insight Cable came out to my building to install Cable Phone service for my Landlord and now I don't have any phone service. Insight said its not their problem, Bellsouth says it looks like someone has been tampering with my line from the NID to the apartment ... and now I'm having to involve Public Service Commission ... I got my own private Soap-Opera going on here.

    So, I won't be able to give as much attention to the Forums after 5:30pm EST till I can get phone service back on ...

    In the meantime ... I'll be here during the day at work and respond when I can.

    Darrell
     

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