When will ecstasy be legal?

Discussion in 'The Future' started by i_was_in_shroom_land, Jan 8, 2008.

  1. dead_head90

    dead_head90 Member

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    well if im not mistaken E used to be legal. It was used for family counseling, because it gave family's a sense of closeness and happiness. Ive experimented with E (which is not pure mdma its made with mdma and laced with other drugs) It soon got out to the public, unprescribed and people abused it, and died. this is why the govt made it illegal.
     
  2. Bradley1107

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    wow you guys really must not know to many E heads...NOT THE BRIGHTEST BUNCH!! Encourage yourself to think, shit. You don't need a fucking pill to make you think...DID SOCRATES TAKE ECSTASY?? E IS harmful, and thats why it will not be made legal.
     
  3. Pellinore

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    I don't like your attitude.

    Do you have any proof to claim that E is harmful?
    I guess it's harmful when you abuse it.

    But that's not the point at all.

    It's not thinking, it is about stimulating our consciousness, gaining more knowledge, seeing behind the walls of our individual self. Peeking behind the reality that our mind has created.

    It is because of people who think like you, that make people ignorant by taking away responsibilities. Responsibilities are a important stimulant for the consciousness.

    Let people make their own judgments, their own moral choices, that in the end is where wisdom comes from.
     
  4. Bradley1107

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    dude..come on. People can make their choices. They don't have to listen me. But whats your proof that E isn't harmful?? you're 17 years old! My proof is from real life experience! Im not lying to you, E fucked me up for a while, and If I would have kept using it, I would have been toast. On top of this, I had a cousin that was institutionalized after he starting using. Before this happened, he sounded exactly like you.

    There is nothing wrong with giving people a fair warning about real dangers that drugs have. I dont understand how you could even argue that?
     
  5. Bradley1107

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    Ecstasy fucks with your brain chemistry. It depletes your seratonin. It can bring out latent mental illness. It can cause depression (high rates of suicide) There are plenty of fake pills out there that could kill you. these are common facts about the use of this drug, so if you want to take the time to actually research what you're putting into your body, there will be your proof.

    You can't argue this stuff. There are real dangers.
     
  6. Pellinore

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    I know that it depletes your seratonin .. but at normal use that won't be more then 5%, wich you regain after a few weeks.
    And yes, there are alot of fake pills, but that is because it is illegal and being distributed by corrupt drug dealers?

    I have had some extreme experiences with xtc, i once took 30 pills during a period of 2 weeks, besides of being confused for a while and losing alot of weight i didn't get anything permanent, i did feel a bit depressed but i could live with it, and after a few days it went by.

    I really don't get your point, i experienced it to be a fun drugs with amazing effects, as if it brings harmony to your mind and everything around you.
     
  7. Bl4ck3n3D

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    Death from E is very rare.
     
  8. themnax

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    banning possession of anything is as dangerous as anything banned. more so then some.

    yes there are things we would be better off without. banning possession of them isn't the best or most logical way to go about it though.

    banning manufacture, sale and wholesale importation makes a whole lot more sense, and doesn't create instant intimidation and manipulation opportunities.

    i'm all for banning the mass production manufacture of automobiles, conventional military small arms, including concealable balistic side arms.

    i don't think USING anything that can supliment for imagination is a good thing to do. i just think wasting jail space that's needed for violent offenders and creating this opportunity for abuse of the law itself, is much worse, totally illogical, and creates a large market for organized crime, who'se legitimate corporate fronts have for all practical purposes usurped the political proccess.

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  9. Burnt

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    I have seem many of these posts on where individuals want a legalization of their favorite drug and all have their positive experience that is spoken about, with few negatives.

    Now I'm going to go a bit off topic. If one truley want to legalizes their drug of choice, in my opinion you need to aim lower, support other drugs, more natural drugs, whether you use them or not and I'm not talking of marijuana though I wish it were a 100% legal. I'm talking of things of the lesser drugs such as salvia divorium, not much is known of this drug by the general public and it's still legal in some parts of the united states. If you gather the pros and cons of this herb and release this information to the general public you can gain support and possibly keep it legal. Only then can you work your way up and start the process of trying to legalize other drugs.
     
  10. Bradley1107

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    death from E is rare. Its something to consider. And I know personally many people whos lives are now worse off because of their use of this drug. You don't have to believe me. but then again, Im not lying.
     
  11. Angel86

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    It'll be legal when it doesn't make your brain look like swiss cheese...have you seen a brain scan of someone who has used ectasy casually....your brain rots away, literally.
     
  12. Exar

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    Yet you've proven nothing, you may aswell have written a list from 1-100 and cried "Look, none of these are 101!" You may have seen what you have seen, it means nothing to me. Do some research instead, and you won't be relying on your limited experience and simple analysis.
     
  13. Bl4ck3n3D

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    Haha, actually, they admitted that picture was someone on METH, not MDMA.
     
  14. Bradley1107

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    lots of E pills are filled with meth
     
  15. Bl4ck3n3D

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    Which is why if E was legal, we'd have clean pure pills.
     
  16. MaximusXXX

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    It was legal for a time in the 60s.

    Go back to that time...lol.
     
  17. baloon

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    just one pill can cause brain damage, there were studies done about that.... I heard about it in my psychology class
    nonetheless I do like that drug
     
  18. freeinalaska

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    Ecstasy (MDMA) was legal in the US until it was listed as a Schedule 1 controlled substance in May of 1985.
     
  19. Bl4ck3n3D

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    HAHA thats such fucking bullshit budy, show me some proof for that, I do believe this was debunked quite awhile ago.

    Please people, don't buy into the stupid shit you hear.
     
  20. dead_head90

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    i dont have brain damage so... im not sure if i care... haha
     
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