When the Bough breaks;

In denial about what? I know racism exists, especially at the micro level. I simply do not accept the idea that if you're white, you should be made to feel guilty. If you think about it, the divide between the races is furthered most by the media and political correctness, which places an unnatural emphasis on race. Do you think this is by mere coincidence?

 

I would agree with all of your post if it wasn't for the "micro" part.

But yeah, I don't AGAIN believe that white people should feel guilty.

This is a little like saying I'm anti-semitic for discussing Israel's policies.

I simply said there are systemic things white people don't face. End of story. No guilt. No blame.

 

Hate to tell you, but when you are an outspoken young man like myself, with good fashion(IMO), and you live in a black neighborhood... you're just as black as your neighbors to a lot of people.

Been called Wigger..white ******....wannabe ******.....

Had a cop tell me once, "You're just another ****** who was put in the wrong skin".

While I agree that generally what you say is true, it is far from science or fact.

 

I think it'll probably still be a good while before races are all considered equally to everyone, but I think we've done a damn good job to get where we are today. I mean, shit, we have a black guy running for president. People who aren't racist are just going to have to raise their children as such and hope that their children make a positive influence on children who weren't so lucky. You can't change the minds of those who are already prejudice and you can't change the system overnight, all we can do is work to do so and hope that maybe the future will have a better outlook and people won't feel oppressed because of the color of their skin.

 

I wouldn't go as far as "just as black as", you know.

But I know you have a certain admiration or identity with black people. And I do imagine that brings with it some prejudice. Sure.

I don't know what's so hard about white people understanding that there are challenges specific to blacks.

They are not the only challenges, but they are specific. White people simply do not face it.

 

There's been progress in that direction. Yes.

 

All we can really do is keep pushing forward, then, because sitting and moaning about how there's still racism doesn't do anything but make the racists MORE racist and frustrate those of us who aren't. Our team leader who is black faces subtle and not so subtle prejudice towards her every day (she's also an androgynous lesbian, so it's sort of a double-whammy in this redneck town), but I haven't seen it hold her back one bit. You can't let it hold you back or bring you down, or you're going to be compromising the progress of racial relations, if just a small bit.

 

Yeah, and I never said there wasn't.

Blacks have been treated unjustly from the very beginning. The ghettos were flooded with cocaine and heroin back in the 60s and 70s, then with crack in the 80s. This wasn't the work of just a few lone drug dealers. The black families were targeted for destruction from the beginning, so the people would then look to the state, which a good number of them are dependent on, BY DESIGN. This was used to justify the welfare state and more police. The same techniques that were used against the black population are now being used against us all, but most people cannot fathom that we're being socially engineered, and we're especially being manipulated in order to divide us instead of united against our common enemy. Like I said before, divide and conquer.

 

Typically, I wouldn't either. Awaiting a ride at the moment and trying to multi task so I'm typing as quick as my fingers will let me get thoughts out.

You get the idea though.

At the same time you have black people like Kanye West publically stating that black people are all around better at life than white people. Roughly in the same time period as when he compared himself to Jesus AND said during relief efforts that president Bush does not care about black people....

I agree with the last one... but the first two??? C'mon now.... Kanye West...... was that really necessary?

My point is many of the struggles that are had on any side don't always equate to racism but that's the convenient label. I never said black people don't have problems that come as a result of being born black, but I will say that those problems can't all be summed up as easily as racism when you have fools like that creating general animosity.

goodnight. Gotta go.

 

I'm not a complainer.

Neither am I into guilt-tripping white people or whatever.

But if you tell me racism doesn't exist, that all of it is about money, etc. I'm gonna have to call you out.

I'm middle class and I've faced challenges that white middle class kids don't face. So, I'm speaking from experience.

But that experience actually invigorates me rather than putting me down.

 

It makes me sad.

 

It's a little sad, but we can handle it. Together.

First step: not denying its existence.

 

I'm not denying racism exists in the least bit, but fucked up shit happens to everyone and while specific fucked up shit only happens to minorities, you can't use that as a crutch, you have to let it build your character. So good for you for doing so, maybe you can encourage others to do the same. We might not see racism disappear in our lifetime, but we can certainly work towards making that happen in the future.

 

I feel iffy about even joining this thread. Although Ive been reading it.

I have never witnessed racism. Does that seem ridiculous? Ive lived a lucky and sheltered life. Although Ive taken rebellious steps in pushing myself past it to earn new experience. I want to understand though Its hard to when you havnt been exposed to it.

 

We're in complete agreement, baby.

 

It's not a white individual's job to be exposed to racism or taking responsibility for it.

Your experience is no less legitimate than mine. Join in. Chime in.

 

Well Im not speaking as a white... Im speaking as myself. I can in no possible way ever speak for a whole race. Im just infinitely curious as to the human experience.

 

I'm actually not speaking FOR black people either. I'm especially not speaking for African Americans, becuase first, I'm not American, secondly, I'm mixed.

A lot of black people would disagree with me.

I'm speaking from directly experiencing systemic racism: the police, denied loans that weren't denied white people in the same condition, employment in certain areas, application to apartments, etc.

Granted, there is affirmative action and all of that shit, but it's give a dog a bone.

 

And I prefer to be known as 'peach'.


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