"When I'm president, there's not going to be an international crisis"

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  1. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    U.S. most armed country with 90 guns per 100 people

    Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:57pm EDT

    By Laura MacInnis
    GENEVA (Reuters) - The United States has 90 guns for every 100 citizens, making it the most heavily armed society in the world, a report released on Tuesday said.
    U.S. citizens own 270 million of the world's 875 million known firearms, according to the Small Arms Survey 2007 by the Geneva-based Graduate Institute of International Studies.
    About 4.5 million of the 8 million new guns manufactured worldwide each year are purchased in the United States, it said.
    "There is roughly one firearm for every seven people worldwide. Without the United States, though, this drops to about one firearm per 10 people," it said.
    India had the world's second-largest civilian gun arsenal, with an estimated 46 million firearms outside law enforcement and the military, though this represented just four guns per 100 people there. China, ranked third with 40 million privately held guns, had 3 firearms per 100 people.
    Germany, France, Pakistan, Mexico, Brazil and Russia were next in the ranking of country's overall civilian gun arsenals.
    On a per-capita basis, Yemen had the second most heavily armed citizenry behind the United States, with 61 guns per 100 people, followed by Finland with 56, Switzerland with 46, Iraq with 39 and Serbia with 38.
    France, Canada, Sweden, Austria and Germany were next, each with about 30 guns per 100 people, while many poorer countries often associated with violence ranked much lower. Nigeria, for instance, had just one gun per 100 people.
    "Firearms are very unevenly distributed around the world. The image we have of certain regions such as Africa or Latin America being awash with weapons -- these images are certainly misleading," Small Arms Survey director Keith Krause said.
    "Weapons ownership may be correlated with rising levels of wealth, and that means we need to think about future demand in parts of the world where economic growth is giving people larger disposable income," he told a Geneva news conference.
    The report, which relied on government data, surveys and media reports to estimate the size of world arsenals, estimated there were 650 million civilian firearms worldwide, and 225 million held by law enforcement and military forces.
    Five years ago, the Small Arms Survey had estimated there were a total of just 640 million firearms globally.
    "Civilian holdings of weapons worldwide are much larger than we previously believed," Krause said, attributing the increase largely to better research and more data on weapon distribution networks.
    Only about 12 percent of civilian weapons are thought to be registered with authorities.


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    I would post the wiki link from above, but too many flags and i don't feel like removing them all.
     
  2. maryjohn

    maryjohn Senior Member

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    so it was a mistake.

    I did ask, didn't I?
     
  3. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    The source of those statistics are small firearms. Canadians have more rifles than handguns. Something those statistics are aimed at skewing.
    Yes, well - we lived through the cold war too. And yes, we have anti-missile defense technology.
    Ummm. Are you serious? Because like, you know how the Head of State in the United States of America is the President, right? Well, you see, in Canada our Head of State is the Queen of England. That's right. On every penny, nickle, dime, quarter, loonie, toonie, $1 bill, $2 bill and $20 bill Queen Elizabeth II is on there. So, if by chance the USA decided to invade the Dominion of Canada, they would effectively be declaring war on the UK - and like I said, it's unwise to do that. The Queen would be royally pissed off and so would every other Commonwealth Nation. You'd be fighting the French, Australia, New Zealand, Mozambique, India, South Africa, Singapore, etc. Queen Elizabeth is the Head of State of 16 Commonwealth realms.

    I highly doubt that kind of attack would last just a week as you seem to think. But then again, perhaps you were one of those who believed that the Iraq invasion would also last just little over a week.

    Yes, I do. You can Google FEMA Camps in the USA if you wish.

    Eh? What am I supposed to do with this?

    Yes. Much like it has a drug problem, gun control problem, and teenage pregnancy problem. What is your point?

    Mine was, that if Canada were to become just like Americans, our laws would be more fragmented than they are and lots of people would have been retro-actively breaking the law. It's going backwards, not forwards.

    Wow. *slow claps* 3 entire States, eh? And even the movement in California to take down gay marriages is in full force as we speak. Such justice.

    I've been outside of Canada at least hundreds of times. I frequent the USA perhaps 10 times a year, and I'm 24. So do the math. I've been at least a hundred times to the USA.

    It's obvious that you would like to think that I am the one who knows nothing about American Hubris. HA!

    And that is my point. It doesn't make sense to follow the directions of another country's policy solely on the basis of previous partnerships.

    But somehow, it is the opinion of many that Canada is required to fight, bleed and die alongside Americans for their own empirical benefit.
     
  4. maryjohn

    maryjohn Senior Member

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    yeah!

    and my canadian dad is older than your american dad.

    ari, why are you even bothering with this. you're a smart girl...
     
  5. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    First "small arms" include more than just pistols:
    revolvers, self loading pistols,rifles and carbines,sub-machine guns,assault rifles,and light machine guns.
    "kinda like how you skewed small arms to hand guns ?"
    Your original claim wasn't Canadians have more rifles than pistols, it was Canada had more guns per capita than the USA, which is still untrue.

    Since MY sources seem to skew facts, care to provide any?


    Again, not even close to your original post.

    btw, every country on the planet "lived" through the cold war, doesn't mean they have a BMD System.

    You Don't have missile defense stations.
    You don't have the capabilities to shoot down anything bigger than a Goose.

    There is a BIG difference in having the "capabilities" and
    having the "technology"

    Living through the cold war, and participating in the cold war are 2 different things.

    So, can you name 1 station yet?

    Iraq's Elite Republican Gaurd, which was 500,000 strong, and known as the Worlds best Desert fighters, were defeated in 100 hours"on the other side of the planet" you're next door.


    Do YOU seriously believe that crap?
    6 foot fence with the quarantine wire facing the wrong way,and the 2 5000 pound propane bombs sitting in the yard ?
    gawd, grabbing at straws now.

    How does you coming to the USA a number of times prove this statement?
    I've been to 12 different Countries,
    Canada, Mexico, Cuba,China,Turkey,Netherlands,Germany,Russia,Israel,Lebanon,Poland and the UK. Some for only a week, some for years.




    I may have seen something that you haven't had the chance to see yet.

    btw, i'm not anti-Canadian. more like anti-fib.
     
  6. maryjohn

    maryjohn Senior Member

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    you do realize you are acting like children?

    Canada invented the anti-personnel land mine dude. It would be a very shitty place to try and occupy. We Canadians are persistent and ingenious bastards, and we have all the fresh water. Not to mention, global warming is fucking over the US and helping Canada out.

    So don't put too much stock in American dominance, and start thinking about coöperation now.
     
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