When exactly did rock n' roll die?

Discussion in 'Rock 'n' Roll' started by Fluffernutter, Aug 2, 2006.

  1. johnnystillcantread

    johnnystillcantread Member

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    Rock died in the 80s and I think it’s my fault

    (I didn’t go to enough concerts and cheer them on)
     
  2. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Great, at least we have a scapegoat now! :tongue: Don't worry man, good rock's still around.
     
  3. Metallideth

    Metallideth Sir

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    Once again, rock is only dead if you're not listening.

    By announcing that rock is dead, you're proclaiming yourself to be too lazy to look around for a good band. You're sitting back and waiting for the mainstream to bring you this great music. Go look for it.

    Listen to the independants, the soundclicks and myspace bands, don't expect the clearwater network to be your connection to good music.
     
  4. WoodstockChild

    WoodstockChild Intrepid Traveler!

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    Mid nineties, with the arrival of grunge.
     
  5. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    This post says it all. Yay, I agree with Metallideth!

    I get rather tired of trying people to convince that good rock isn't dead, and also find myself asking why I bother. You peeps seem lazy indeed, however I believe some of you aren't.
    It's just so sad to see people claiming to love rock but not wanting to see further than the eighties or something. Seems you want it to be dead.

    Well anyways, I know it isn't: I see the good stuff live, they tour and they're on the internet. Releasing cd's and lp's. People who love rock and take the effort to look for it will find it.
    Like I said earlier, I'm not talking about metal, indie, alternative, emo and what not. There still is some fucking good rock being made.

    Well, you can shove it up your ass. I'm already thankful enough there are people around that do know it and making gigs succesful. Keep praying for a reborn for rock 'n roll while laying in your chair watching mtv!
     
  6. Metallideth

    Metallideth Sir

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    Amen.

    Also, to those who say that it died when "this" happened. I laugh at your PATHETIC belief. By giving one band the credit of destroying an entire genre, I fear that your knowledge of the genre may infact be so limited that you truly do believe what it is you proclaim, and pray that you aren't so lazy that you refuse to go and look for rock the way it was originally found, and that sure as hell wasn't by flipping to MTV and listening to the commercial babble.
     
  7. koolkat

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    cant tell u exactly when but
    i knew for sure it died when i saw a headliner of a magazine asking
    "Can fallout boy save rock?"
    wow.
    enough said
     
  8. Metallideth

    Metallideth Sir

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    Asmodean, I fear it's too late for these guys and gals, they rely on eMpTy V and pop culture magazines to find their music.
     
  9. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Too bad that they say they love rock.
     
  10. Metallideth

    Metallideth Sir

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    What they don't seem to realize is that they only know of the rock that the mainstream media pushes at them, while ignoring and discrediting all the wicked shit thats going on in, as strange as the term sounds, the rock underground.
     
  11. northsyde verjerai

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    i wouldnt say rock is dead, more like a coma and every once in a while it dribbles out some good tunes but i agree with a statment earlier about pushing acutal music as in sounds, their is still no equivelent to such guitar gods as paige and hendrix although i have discovered primus latly i think there not that bad and as for the 80s they has some great bands that still kick out the jams today rock is not dead just your motivation to find it
     
  12. Asmodean

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    Check out Atomic bitchwax selftitled album for some great guitarsolo's.
     
  13. KasabianRulesMan!

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    rock is dead when freddie mercury s dead... the end of a mythical moustache was the dead limit for us:H i m serious hehe...

    Well i just read once again what i ve wrote before and i directly thinked that Metallideth will jump on the occasion... and i was right... but well you re right too...
    I mean i know that there s plenty of good stuff after 1983 ...
    It s just a general approach of rock n roll years talkin 'bout his vitality & creative summit... but i know some modern people like better modern records... nobody thinks the same ...
    I was just talkin in general therms... and i dont remember when i wrote the last post...but it looks like it was the beginin of a week... or one of those damned 'happy' mondays...
    I mean it s partially true but exagerated...a bit like when you under lsd or shrooms often we see things in a exagereted manner...

    The whole things about the birth & date of rock n roll is a demi joke... a part true a part false ...
    We all know rock n roll is alive and good things are recorded here & there...
    But if you ve got to choose when it started to decline...
    even the world decline is not easy to use here...

    It s not easy 'cause we ve got some 'rebirth' of the rock n roll phoenix as when grunge music jumped savagely at the summit of the charts in the end of 1991 and more or less at the same time there's Metallica with their hugely successful black album...& Guns n roses with their explosive pretentious double records ...for sure not without great songs...& Red Hot Chili arrive with their funk grunge rap party record 'the blood sugar sex thing'...
    ...
    another Rock 'return' was the 1995-97 Britpoprock movement...with supergrass - cast - dodgy - oasis - suede - blur - mansun - radiohead - stone roses - charlatans - kula shaker - ocean colour scene - etc...

    and now since the Strokes 1st album at the end of 2001 ... we're supposed to live another favourable time for rock n roller...

    but honestly In my big mouth & curious ears all this does n have the rich tastes of past sonic explorators
     
  14. koolkat

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    tohhhhtally agree
    im just thinken of how these new bands that all sound alike and copy eachother.
    um talent? o well
     
  15. Asmodean

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    Those bands are only the top of the iceberg. There are a lot of bands that doesn't sound like copies.
     
  16. KasabianRulesMan!

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    but it is possible to find good "copies" and bad "originals" ?
     
  17. Asmodean

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    If there were only bad originals nowadays I wouldn't bother to start about it. And I'm sure there are bands that copy other bands' sound and still could be considered good.
     
  18. toast

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    Yeah Nirvana influenced all the shitty bands we have today but Led Zeppelin was the primary influence for that abomination we've dubbed hair metal.

    It's not dead, the general population's taste in music is just at another low point.

    We got through cycles..

    Great taste... okay taste... shitty bottom of the barrel taste.... then back up to the top.

    1. 60's... - great
    2. 70's... - lots of great bands but a lot of crappy ones..
    3. 80's... - just plain awful..

    cycles back...

    1. early 90's... - revival! People making great music with passion again!
    2. mid 90's... - still good music being made but then again mostly crap in the mainstream.
    3. from like 2000 till now... - Shit. Terrible.


    We're due for another good run, but until that happens you'll have to look elsewhere than maintstream music and radio for quality.
     
  19. Retread

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    Rock died with kiss etc. And don't mention Curt Cobain as a great. Are you kidding me?!! He did one okay album and folks compare him to John Lennon!? Geez!! He was a nice boy but no genius.
     
  20. please_fly_free

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    i dont think that rock n roll dies, it just has an incurable auto-immune disease. this means that it has periods of remission (where its NOT being stomped out by shit played on the radio and mtv. Its living and thriving and just rockin) and then those ugly flares (where pop, rap, and all the top 40s crap in between are stomping out every chance to have rock played on radio stations)....Remission is coming soon (I hope)...

    but hey y'all i gotta better one for ya -- when did MTV/VH1 start sucking (I know it does now but when did it start)

    it cracks me up...that music channel called FUSE used to have these commercials knocking MTV for not playing enough videos, not playing them in their entirety, and only playing stupid whose-fucking-who reality shows -- now FUSE is becoming just like them too...
     

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