When did it become okay for men

Guy's like me, certified bum.

I don't live at home, i have my own place but aside from that, i am on welfare, mooch money off my mother and still barely get by from pay check to pay check. I smoke p-t and spend all my time reading, watching tv or listening to music... a waste of time, except the books and doco's.


So why am I such a dependent bum? because i have truck load of issues, by this time 2 years ago i was near dead... physically, emotionally really sick. So I am trying to take life day by day, after this year i finally will have finished high school, 3 years after my break down. i've quit smoking and sitting on my ass (cigarettes, i am also very tidy since i moved out) and after this post i am going to go look for work, just need to hope some one will hire me for night shifts.

So i really am a 'dependent loser' but thats just the way i turned out after so much shit, it's taking time but i am fixing it, and i really hope to be independent soon (ASAP actually it's killing me, i cant even think about a girl friend at the moment)

What i am saying is, there is proabably alot of dependent guys who really don't want to be that way, men go through tough times to.

 

that is not what I meant at all...and I was not talking about you, but our conversation made me think of it.

 

i went through some things that would completley chill you to the bone and let it get to me for awhile. One day you just get sick of it and move on. I hope it happens soon for you.

HUGS

 

I beleive you (HUGS for your troubles ) truth is i am over it, all of it, i know what i want, i'm going to go get it, it's just hard at times. Speaking of which i am going to go get that job now.

 

man if people weren't judging me all the time I'd so be a bum.

I get so much pleasure out of slothing around doing jack shit its not funny. fuck work. If you girls were a little more tolerant towards us not-want-to-acheivers the world would be a much happier place. well, at least for me anyway.

 

I believe you will achieve everything you set your mind to.. you are an extremely smart funny and kind person and you deserve the best
much love to you!!!!

 

You hate in others what you hate about yourself.

 

Some ppl cant be like other ppl who've made it. Certain ppl cant get jobs to be on their own. That's how life is. It's getting way over populated so dont blame those men who still live with parents.

 

Hey you! come do!

 

I don't think this is mostly a male trait. I've run into a lot of pampered little princess' too. It seems to be pretty much like a 1 to 1 kind of thing. I don't think it has so much to do with the sex, but just our society and people's feelings of self-entitlement.

 

Why? When did it become okay for women to mooch off everyone? And believe me, I've met WAY more women who do it then men.

 

What are you talking about? I love living at home, my mom loves me living at home too BUT I do not feel entitled to living at home.

There's a big difference between living at home and having a sense of entitlement and taking people for granted or not striving towrds independence. Living situation are just one small part of the equation.

 

you can still be the princess, baby whatever in your family while still making clear strides in your life...I am def spoiled, but I don't expect it and I def m an asset to my family.

 

Then why can't men? The truth is your spoiled now and you are the type that feels they are entitled to be spoiled by your parents and then your husband. So you have to ensure your husband will continue to spoil you thus he must be accomplished in exactly this way. You can do what you want by why talk down others when you are the same way?

 

She is talking down to other she is pointing out a common occurrence in men especially that didn't used to be there. I would not date a man that lived at home with his parents or that didn't have a job. The guys that I think she is also talking about are the ones that don't do anything at all. They live with their parents, don't work and don't go to school. There is no ambition to do anything with their lives because they think that their parents and the world owed them everything.

Is the real reason you are getting so defensive is that is describes you?

 

Exactly!!!!!!!!!

 

OK, the difference is I do not feel entitled to any of it nor do I smoke pot, ply video games and do nothing all day...this is what I am talking about.

I am fine with guys who live at home and don't work because they are going to school or guys who live at home because they genuinley have strong family values. However, I would not date either if I were single because you are right I am spoiled.
I'm educated, qualified career wise, young and relativley attractive, thus I had the ability to be picky. I am glad I was picky as I landed a great guy who is nice, smart, motivated, has a great future with a world of limitless possibilities and spoils me to death.
So yes, my family spoils me and so does my fiance (we just got engaged today...speaking of spoiled you should see my ring...it's a princess cut; how fitting is that? ). But I'm a very good daughter and a very good girlfriend.

 

my brother is going to be 27 in 10 days and he's exactly like that.

 

My oldest son is like that -spoiled and lazy - expects everything to be handed to him.
He lives with my first wife. she finally got fed up and put him on notice -get a job,go back to school or get out. Peace and Love is great but it dont pay the bills, gotta earn your keep...

 

i need to find an island with unlimited water, millions of psychedelic fungi, electric outlets, and a unlimited coconuts, crabs, and lobsters. then i could be a lazy bum all day and never need to work at all. just sleep on the beach, smoke weed, eat shrooms, listen to phish, and relax all day

but that'll never happen.....so im stuck with a job