Whats your position on flag burning?

You know whats also violent and ignorant ?
Flag burning.
Its not freedom of speech, its a lack of respect.

 

respect? Am I disrespecting you if I burn the flag? if anything, I'm disrespecting Bush, the pigs, and the government. I am expressing that I'm fed up with the way this country is being run and everything it stands for.
I don't see anyone being harmed in burning a flag, unless you count people who get butthurt about it.
Now, saying someone should get burned in a flag? That's messed up.
Not everyone in life will respect you; get over it. Especially if you make stupid comments and try to stop other people's freedom of expression.
If you don't like me burning your precious flag, look away... I'll be lighting up a bowl with it.

 

how well do flags burn anyways?

am curious as i have tried to burn books

[romance novels in a woodburning stove during a cold broke winter]

they do not burn well at all

will have to try again with flags some day

 

Yes, you are. I put my life on the line to protect the people of this country. You are disrespecting me and, worse yet, the memory of my friends that died for this nation. If you feel like burning a flag...LEAVE MY COUNTRY or come see me.

 

i am sorry that your friends died for their 'country'

we did not ask them to do this and we did not need it to happen

what they actually die for is to protect the business interests of the ruling class

the world would be much safer if no one died for their 'country'

or its masters

 

It would be nice if no one NEEDED to die. The fact is they did NEED to die to protect what you and I have. There are too many in this world who are WILLING to die for religion, politics, etc. If EVERYONE were peaceful it would be wonderful. The fanatics in this world make it necessary for soldiers to stand up and sometimes die for freedom.

 

i have nothing to protect

so you can stop protecting me

unless you are willing to protect me from the fanatics that are running the u$a

[but don't die, please]

btw, if you are willing to die for your 'country' than you are willing to die for 'politics', as you say

what else is it?

[and what the hell is 'freedom' in a u$a context, anyways?]

 

I too was in the army, and have lost friends to the war, and I say flag burnings copacetic, and is a fundamental right which we should all be free to express.

Your veteran status doesn't give you any right to trample on the first ammendment. if anything it means you should be a vangaurd of it.

 

An offline conversation with my friend MasterinTx got me thinking: this seems like a good example of my new "Everyone's an asshole" theory. It goes like this: when people are really arguing about something - getting angry about it and everything - usually no one's right and everyone's being an asshole.

I kinda think people who burn flags are assholes...and I also kinda think people who get angry about it are assholes too.

 

Flag-burning shows disrespect for the people (for that's what countries are made of - so spare the fatuous faux philosophising by seperating people from country) of that flag's country. But I'd uphold anyone's right to burn any flag - or book for that matter.

The right to do so is enshrined in the free world's democratic principles of free speech and though I can sympathise and feel something of the displeasure at the thought, to physically confront anyone who might do this is unnecessary and as reactionary as those enemies of democracy who regularly play out the flag-burning act for the MSM cameras (along with the AK-47 folk dance teams). It's also a more agreeable form of 'protest' than say, strapping a belt of HE to yourself and killing 50 of your countrymen and women at a vegetable market.

Anyone who thinks it's cool to burn the US flag should perhaps try for a minute to think outside the cliched proposition that the Stars and Stripes is the motif of -exclusively- a shallow, nationalistic, imperialistic, superpower. Equally, the US flag can symbolize western and western-style democracies, social freedoms, and sexual and social equality. Believe it, it's those things which are perceived above all others and which enrage such people as radical Islamists. Implicitly they are burning the flags of the free world: the nations of Europe, the Antipodes, and India for espousing (if not perfectly) democratic and post-enlightenment values.

 

flags should only be burned if theyre made of hemp
the rest just add to the polution and are better off being used to wipe your ass

 

A flag represents a country, people and a government. If you burn a flag of a country, my question is this,

Are you burning a flag because:

(A) You are angry with the country ?
(B) You are angry with the president ?
(C) You are angry with the people ?
(D) You are cold and have nothing else to start a bonfire?

 

Hi Eagle,

Either you are young, naive or you just don't fully grasp the principles behind the U.S. Constitution.

In 1989, after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that flag burning is Constitutionally protected freedom of speech, Supreme Court Justice William Brennan, writing for the majority, said:

“We do not consecrate the flag by punishing its desecration, for in doing so we dilute the freedom that this cherished emblem represents.”


http://weblaw.usc.edu/news/archive/2003/Johnson.cfm



Hope that answers your question.

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stev90

 

Although I entirely agree with the central theme of your post, I demur to this statement. I believe one great uniqueness of the American experiment was the emphasis on the individual, separated from the "people," and free to pursue happiness according to his own values. I doubt this philosophy would be regarded as fatuous or faux if it was inculcated by founding fathers.

But this is just another component of what the flag represents. Someone burning it isn't really specifying what aspect of the the flag they're protesting, I guess that's up to the observers to identify what traits do the people, the country, the gov't, have that need purging and renunciation. THere's always something, no matter how much we progress. To detest a flag burning demonstration may be considered by some to be patriotic, but all it is to me is an act of truth-hatred.

 

Ran out of heating oil.. and went flag collecting at the local cemetery....

 

Whatever. I still think burning a flag is too much. And you have right to disagree.

 

You and your friends chose to put your own lives at risk to "protect the country"; you sold your souls to the government pigs and chose to become a mindless weapon.
Please don't let all the brainwashing affect you... open your mind. You CHOSE to become tools of destruction.
I WILL burn a flag all I want; and no, I won't leave and no, I probably won't come see a brainwashed government tool.
It is my right to burn the flag and I'm certainly not going to let some violent redneck threaten me.

 

There is no need to die. No one needs to die, there is nothing needed to protect, that is the shit the government pigs fed you. WAKE UP

 

Social freedoms? Why can't I smoke a beautiful plant i my own home without worrying about being shot? Why must I fear that cops will taze me if I speak out for my rights?
Sexual Equality? Why can't too people who love each other get married simply because they are of the same gender?

Is this what needs to be protected?

 

"Whatever". Sounds like you've pretty much admitted defeat.
"Whatever". It sounds like something an angry teen says when they realized that indeed their parents are right.