Whats your position on flag burning?

i meant the swastika one [note use of past tense]

and you did not answer my question

do you love your flag enough

[to kill for it]

 

I love my flag, but I wouldnt kill for it.
I'd kill for liberty, freedom and people. Not for the flag itself.

 

but that is what the flag asks of you...

leaving aside the 'kill for liberty, freedom and people' thing

which is really pretty funny

KILL FOR PEOPLE!

[laughing]

you were kidding, i hope...

 

Lol.
I was. I wouldnt kill for anyone. I wouldnt even kill to save my own life.
But I still wouldnt burn flags. It just seems disrespectful, even though flags are just symbols.

 

that is a reasonable answer i suppose

i am personally not interested in respect for nationalism

but i respect your right to be

you really ought to trademark 'kill for people' though...

 

That 'kill for people' part was pretty funny.

 

I don't know but they - Germans were very flag crazy.

 

Ha ha ha...it's actually got a name. It's called Godwin's Law.

"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."

Here's the Wiki article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

 

Hahaha..I didnt know of that Godwin's Law.
Interesting....Thanks, Molly.

 

Reductio ad Hitlerum....LOL.

 

Supreme Court rulings have upheld that peaceful flag desecration is a form of political speech that should be protected by our Constitution:


"It is firmly settled that under our Constitution the public expression of ideas may not be prohibited merely because the ideas are themselves offensive to some of their hearers." Moreover, appellant did not impose his ideas upon a captive audience. Anyone who might have been offended could easily have avoided the display. See Cohen v. California, 403 U.S. 15 (1971).Nor may appellant be punished for failing to show proper respect for our national emblem.
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/spence.html



I have re-posted the above, just for you, since you seem be having an age-related comprehension issue.:jester:

I have even increased the font size just to make it easier for your eyes. LOL.

Good luck.
Peace

 

how idiotic and concrete of a thinker do you need to be to feel sad about a flag being burned? We're having to deal with all the important, meaningful constitutional things that have been metaphorically burned and trampled under the feet of a cynical and despotic administration...if you're not offended by those but are offended by the literal burning of a flag, you have a seriously shallow ability to perceive what's going on and what is important.

 

If you burned my flag, I'd get offended. Maybe thats idiotic, but hey...Have some respect.

 

Don't burn flags. Burn the books. And witches. They don't matter as much as flags.

 

Most flags are used as a symbol for a country, state, organization, family, etc.. Showing respect or disrespect to this symbol represents the respect/disrespect you have for what it represents. Would you burn your family crest in protest? An American burning an American flag in protest makes no sense to me. I don't believe it should be a crime. This is the capacity of people that burn flags.

 

the burning of a flag can mean more than just protesting a gov't that it partially represents. THroughout religion, literature, personal revelation, Fire has always been a symbol for a very thorough purging, or cleansing. A burning flag could represent the complete cleansing of old habits, old viewpoints, old customs, and helps look forward to what is ultimately possible, after a complete loss of identity with old ways.

In order for a person to progress, at times they need to sacrifice everything, even down to their culture, their pride, family, etc. everything. It's in these conditions that one can fully reassess what is important and what new things they should consider important. Flag burning can be a collective effort for the same thing. Yes, it feels bad to see it, you think of your heritage, the love for your country, but these things are necessary to keep in the forefront of thought in the quest to see things as they are and to see how things should be. A healthy disrespect for all these things is necessary to fully embrace future possibilites.

 

I guess I shouldn't be surprised at all the people who see no problem with burning the Americas flag. We all know you have the right to burn it as stated in courts.
I don't like the decision but our country is governed by our laws and interpretation of the Constitution but I be willing to bet that if any body burned the flag in front of our Founding Fathers, they would kick some body ass.
I feel the same way, which is my right. You all can burn the flag as much as you want, just don't do it in front of me. As I have stated before, there I would be the first to jump in and kick some butt.

 

Come and take it down, motherfucker. It's my right too.

 

If the flag represents freedom and democracy and one prohibits desecration, that in and of itself is debasing the alleged meaning of the flag.​

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http://english.sxu.edu/sites/kirstein/?p=427​

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oh yes, because, you know, if someone exersises their freedom of speech, the best way to deal with the nonbelieving heretics is violence. Taking advice from Bush?
Like Stev90 said; even if I don't agree completely, i totally support everyone's right to burn the flag... you can disagree all you want, but saying you're going to "jump in and kick some butt" is very violent, ignorant, and immature; something a 13 year old would say.