Whats your position on flag burning?

I have nowhere to burn a flag. I wouldn't burn one on the street. That's dangerous. But if I had a fire pit and felt like spending money on a flag, I'd sure as heck burn one, why not? They look totally awesome when they burn, as all things do.

 

I think it's unamerican to try and force everyone to have the same reverence for an object. I just don't see the flag as something essential. It isn't the symbol of America, in my eyes. To me, people are that, and I don't personally like symbolic artifacts. And that happens to be my personal right.

I can't help it if some people look at an object and project all of their hopes and dreams onto it. That isn't my doing, and I'm not responsible for that whatsoever. But I'm just not like that. Objects are nothing. People are everything. In my opinion, you've lost the plot completely if you think violence over an object is excusable. It's really no different than little kids fighting over a toy.

Some people don't seem to understand the entire concept of liberty. Being able to treat the flag however you want is a degree of freedom not seen in some places in the world today and not seen in some places in the past. Places we were trying to get away from. I don't want to live in a country where we don't question these symbols, where we elevate them to a status that is more sacred than the individuals that actually comprise the nation. I guess I'm just not materialistic, but I don't think it's mature to be materialistic. All of these objects fade. If you want to believe in anything being eternal, I would suggest the relationships you build with other people, and on an even deeper level, the relationship you hold with yourself.

The bad thing about America is that we really don't appreciate or respect each other. Every faction of the country thinks if everyone were just like them, things would be perfect. And some of them even want to coerce others into sharing what amounts to their personal tastes and lifestyle choices through violent means. It's a kind of myopia that I completely detest.

I do think conservatives are the worst example of this. If you don't love Jesus and wear a gaudy denim old glory outfit, they simply have no respect for you. That's not American at all and not what this country is about. They need to think again. They are not the sole proprietors of everything American as they like to believe. There are lots of different people in this country, and every last one of them is a true American. They really need to humble themselves in the worst way.

I don't want a nation of proud Americans. I want a nation of humble Americans. Any nation can crumble just like that. All of our lives hang in the balance every day.

It seems absurd to me that people want this nationalism in the form of symbols like the flag being elevated to untouchable status, and yet, you despise half of your own nation. You're willing to resort to violence against them, even. How does that work? You don't really love this nation, because it literally is all of these different people that you despise. Beating them up to protect a flag can't possibly be construed as defending the United States of America, which should ideally be strong enough that the burning of a single flag or even all of the flags can destroy it. We don't have sacred objects in this country. That's part of the reason people left the old world behind in the first place.

 

You're willing to cause bodily harm to other Americans in order to protect the flag. It's hard to fathom that you don't see the irony in this. It's far more important to protect your fellow citizens than it is to protect a flag. The destruction of the flag isn't in any way the destruction of America, unless you're extremely paranoid and anxious.

 

I pledge no allegiance to any flag

 

still waiting for you cowards to burn the flag and take a photo of it... Sure some yinz live around cemeteries. Go grab a handful and express your hate..

 

It would be a waste of my time and I see no reason to do it. This really has twisted some panties I can see

 

If you are not nice to a piece of cloth it will not freedom. It's like an exotic bird. We must make sure the habitat is nice and respectful.

Lol at the old lady thing. You should see the bigger picture. Only Americans put this kind of value on a flag vs. the country. Know what happens when I burn a flag in Belgium or England? People are confused but go on with the day.

 

How will that help anyone? I guess you want to be upset with nothing legal you can do about it? If people like you did not get so upset it's likely no one burn the flag. You are showing it's effective protest against the military industrial system.

 

You know it's possible to recognize flag burning as a protected element of free speech under the first amendment and still not have any desire to actually burn a flag right?

 

It’s free speech, as unpalatable as that is to many

 

I think its sick but I would defend peoples right to do so as there are some nations that are not as goods as others.

 

Flag burning is small potatoes, and you can even design flags that look similar, but don't violate the law. Just like you can draw Mickey Mouse porn if you don't violate the copyrights. If you really think the issue is blown out of proportion, that's a good way to address it. The more often people see flags being burned that are similar to their own, the more inured they become to the idea.

 

Lol It's also one thing to burn a national flag out of protest and burning other peoples property or even worse pick the ones from a cemetary and burn those. Nobody was arguing for the latter?
Or is Orison calling people cowards because they only dare to burn their own national flag and not the public ones or those of your neighbour?

 

I hold very traditional, patriotic standards when it comes to our Nations Flag. Our Nations Flag is a visual representation of why, how, and who we are as Americans. It represents our creation having broken ourselves FREE from tyranny. It represents the growth and expansion of our Nation, our determination to flourish and better ourselves along the way. It represents the millions of men and women who made the ultimate sacrifice to the Nation and it's allies since day one. It's also a sign of hope to many other Nations people. To burn something so symbolic and sacred to so many people is despicable and IMHO is NOT a form of "free speech" that has become protected by our 1st Amendment. If one chooses to burn our Nations Flag for any reason I have to ask..."Why are you even here then?" This is a FREE country and with a passport you are able to travel anywhere else on the planet that you think your life will be better, so rather than burn our symbol of Freedom I suggest you purchase an airline ticket to anywhere else until you find a better place than The United States. Good Luck, I'm sure you'll be back because there is no such place.

 

Never thought I'd agree with someone calls themself Low Hangers.