Whats your position on flag burning?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by cannabis cam, Feb 12, 2008.

  1. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    why is your country yours?

    why is my country mine?

    who are my enemies?

    who told me they are my enemies?

    i am very confused by all of this

    so in the meantime i will burn every flag i see

    [the confusers are my enemies]
     
  2. avgreg

    avgreg Member

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    It seems I will be a minority in my thoughts but since you all are talking about freedom of speech, I will say my part.
    I have fought in 2 wars and did not like war but I did it because I believed in serving my country when I was needed. This country has lots of problems. I, like everybody else, could probably have a long list of complaints and in their point of view, would be right.
    But I will tell you out flat, If I saw somebody burning the flag of my country, I would be the first one there to put out the fire. I don't care if it would start a riot, it's my right to defend the flag I fought for, the flag I respect, and the flag of my country.
     
  3. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Good grief.

    The flag is just another symbol. A symbol is a symbol. It's not actually the thing it represents.

    Burning the flag is much like burning a cross, tearing a picture of the Pope, ripping up a poster of Uncle Sam, burning a confederate flag, de-facing greenbacks with your penmanship, etc.

    It's silly to attach moral sentiments to symbols, and that is the whole point behind destroying them.
     
  4. stev90

    stev90 Banned

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    Good post. I agree.
    Unfortunately, there's a lot of "pseudo-patriot flag-waving assholes here in the USA that are more attached to the symbol than the ideas that these stupid symbols represent themselves.
     
  5. stev90

    stev90 Banned

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    Oh yeah? Well, what about my right to burn it, as protected by the Constitution. It's my country too.
     
  6. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Burning flags is not a good method of protesting and it certainly isnt anti American. Its anti every country.
     
  7. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    I am sorry, but if I saw someone burning a cross, I d get pissed off.
    Geez people , have some respect.
    It is a symbol, but this symbol means sth to some people.
     
  8. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    because of the global warming thingie

    i will stop burning flags

    and start vomiting on them

    [my natural reaction anyways]
     
  9. stev90

    stev90 Banned

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    Supreme Court rulings have upheld that peaceful flag desecration is a form of political speech that should be protected by our Constitution:


    "It is firmly settled that under our Constitution the public expression of ideas may not be prohibited merely because the ideas are themselves offensive to some of their hearers." Moreover, appellant did not impose his ideas upon a captive audience. Anyone who might have been offended could easily have avoided the display. See Cohen v. California, 403 U.S. 15 (1971).Nor may appellant be punished for failing to show proper respect for our national emblem.
    http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/spence.html



    If anyone thinks it is wrong or is offended by flag-burning, you gotta have to re-write the Contitution...
     
  10. Canucker

    Canucker Member

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    If someone was burning a cross or the flag, I would be their to put it out.

    It would piss me off.
     
  11. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Same here.
     
  12. Jack-a-Roe72

    Jack-a-Roe72 Member

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    yet a burning cross is the symbol of the Methodist CHurch... you know... ther is more than one meaning to burning a cross... it isn't just a KKK thing.... just thought you should know.
     
  13. avgreg

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    Hey stev90
    from one asshole to another, nobody said you didnt have that right. You have just as much right to burning as I do to protecting it so you and I would ruble if I saw you do it. As for your statement" pseudo-patriot flag-waving assholes" that just goes to show your lack of intelligence and talks great volume about how big an asshole you really are.
     
  14. Astrolog

    Astrolog Member

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    follow the path
     
  15. Astrolog

    Astrolog Member

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    You doesn't know how stupid in my eyes looking all those 'patriots' shaking with small stupid flags. That this fcuken crazyness reminds me the time when I was young and there was in my country 1 MAY walks on labourer day. Everybody went to that controlled paranoia. All your partiotysm is a result of PROPAGANDA putting shit into your brain. My father was ever sceptical to any fired up people to something. As a Pole who never walked with those pro-Russian-comunistic parades, saw stupid Orangist buffons in Belfast, heard grandpas talks about Germans. Thus I telling you: your current political system in USA is very shit like that one just before a II world war in Germany. You are controlled at any part of your empty life, your children are taken to the army directly from familly house by some kind of Marine's door-to-door salesmans. You are controlled on the airports, you can do to jail even for your personal data on your mp3 player. Your gorenment by allowing to gun market in your coutry spread that evil alll over the world and gun marked wasn't banned. So what that the children in Darfur have Chinese nor American guns? This is because of US politics. See Columbia. What there happened! See what happened in Irak. See how perfidly George Bush used the right time to place atomic shield with probably atomic missiles just beside the Russian border. Now Russia will break ACDA treaty and start producing middle range atomic missiles.

    How many shooting in shools make politicans aware that gun market should be banned? This is really good method to infuence on them. I do not say that I like it or it isn't bloody. I'm saying that if where will be more such accidents maybe there will be next pool in parlament and maybe the result will be different than 81:10 next time.

    And what is all about that the hippie wears the country flag? Such dress is suitable rather to football fun not for the hippie. I'm sorry that I teaching you cause you're older but in Poland such behavior would be strange. We use flags in Europa only to show respect to the national football team or in other sports - not to show LOVE to the country. Take this off man and tell the others to self-control as this looks dangerous outside, creates bad look you know. I understand that in USA you have the completely new conditions, many nations and so on, but that means that you should listen even more to coutryfolks with older history and culture as everything depends on continous continuation of the real culture which has its root in magic, monarchies, artifacts, legends and other staff.

    You should know as you were living with Indians in Amazonia as I understand. They have their spirit inside and they do not need to shake with stupid small flags (like a Poles were doing when the Russians wanted - WE HAD THE RED ONES - LESS UGLY ;)
     
  16. ESRUOS ENO

    ESRUOS ENO Senior Member

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    I usually stand with my arms stretched out holding flag on the end of a stick when I set the Flag of Canada on fire.... Then I piss on it to put it out....

    Try burning The flag of The United States Of America..... And Ill kick you in the nuts......I hate you guys......
     
  17. Astrolog

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    Piaf Senior Member

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  19. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    piaf, the germans LOVED their flag

    do you love yours [enough]
     
  20. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    I love my flag.
    And Germans have every right to love their flag.
     

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