Whats your position on flag burning?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by cannabis cam, Feb 12, 2008.

  1. Individual

    Individual Senior Member

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    Weapons are inanimate objects, which make no demands, therefore are incapable of placing their possessors into servitude.The comparison of wolves and lambs is meant to equate a majority to a minority, which provides government to legally oppress the minority based simply on redefining right and wrong to achieve the desires of a created majority. Keeping the lambs incapable of defensive measures is always the oppressors intent.
     
  2. Individual

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    Corporate centrist Obama? Look a little deeper, you might find a hidden agenda, not to mention all the wealth being accumulated by his cronies.

    Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Progressive, Communist, Maoist, are all closely related to one another. It's hard to tell them apart, except on occasion they argue with one another. As a group they would side closely together against a group of Conservatives or Libertarians.
     
  3. Individual

    Individual Senior Member

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    As long as necessary. Like aging, it's not as obvious unless you have not seen someone for decades.
    Since the beginning of civilization there have been those who have wished to rule the world. Today, with the exception of Islam, they are much less obvious, and most people seem to look at "one world governance" as benign.
     
  4. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    one man's paranoia lets another man starve

    fascinating . . .
     
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    i though we was burning Korans this months.. :(
     
  6. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    that was last month, didn't you get the email?

    flags this month

    [next month we burn the homeless]
     
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    right homeless.. Maybe we could get the homeless to convert to islam . thens we can combine the days.. makes it easier wif the federal holidays and the jewish calenders... :D
     
  8. Individual

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    Light em if you got em, but the rational thinker would use his/her money to purchase something needed. Of course the Capitalist flag producers can use the profits.
     
  9. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    and they say rodents are not as smart as humans . . .
     
  10. Individual

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    What clear message is sent by burning the flag of a country?
    Would not a much clearer message be sent by burning a living, serving, politician in effigy?
    The clearest message one could send would be to emigrate.
     
  11. Sleeper

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    I think the flag is more a representation of government and power so if you're burning the flag I'm not sure that it makes you anti-American, maybe just anti- whatever the issue is. I consider myself patriotic and I wouldn't burn the flag myself, but I wouldn't be offended if someone else did.
     
  12. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    now, that is exactly what i keep asking libertarians

    costa rica, por favor?
     
  13. Individual

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    Then burning the flag is sending a message that government has too much power?
     
  14. Individual

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    Shouldn't it be asked of the Left instead, considering the U.S. is not a Socialist country, and several representatives on the Left have mentioned Cuba, Venezuela, and even China as symbols of government they admire?
     
  15. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    but your whole complaint is that it is a socialist country

    :confused:

    okay it is becoming a socialist country [in your opinion] because of the voters

    :confused::confused:

    when it was properly explained to them, the majority of people polled wanted single-payer healthcare

    so we want socialism

    and you're gonna love costa rica . . .
     
  16. neophyte110

    neophyte110 Schwombat

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    It is a piece of cloth. Don't confuse the symbol with what the symbol represents...
     
  17. Individual

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    Becoming is correct, but because of the elected politicians, with the help of the media and other partisan groups who kept the voters from being properly informed as to the agenda of those they voted for. Check the poll results, 16% rate Congress doing a good job, with 56% rate Congress poor. I'll be proven wrong and you correct, if the Democrats gain seats and the Republicans lose seats in the upcoming elections. Like to back your position with some money?

    Explained? Even the politicians who passed the bill are still unaware of what it contains.
    32% favor single payer - 57% oppose it
    13% believe it would improve quality - 52% believe it would lower quality
    Democrats - 62% favor
    Republicans - 87% oppose
    Independents - 22% favor 63% oppose

    Your choices of new residence are numerous.

    I haven't lived in the U.S. for many years now, and oppose Socialist government in any form in any country.
     
  18. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Stick your flag stamps on the envelope upside down, oooh. International symbol for distress.
     
  19. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    eh?

    hmm...i'm going to have to start complaining more about countries i don't live in...

    as far as the polls go, there are plenty of them, again, you need to find the ones where single-payer was properly explained [as opposed to fox news guided questions]

    lastly, according to most right-wingers, the us has been a socialist country since 1932

    yippee!
     
  20. Individual

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    What's there to complain about?

    What's there to explain about single payer? There's much more to the bill than single payer. Of course if all you're interested in is obtaining free health care on the backs of others, I assume the remainder of the bill would be irrelevant.

    Moving toward Socialism would be more accurate, and curiously enough it was 7 Americans, who represented nearly a quarter of the worlds wealth who met on Jekyll Island in 1910 and laid the groundwork for the creation of the Federal reserve. You can look and see the effect this had on the value of money, which had remained nearly constant in its purchasing power from 1774 up until the Federal reserve came into being in 1913 and look at the dollars value over the years afterward until current.
    In addition the Progressive income tax also came about in 1913 in a similar fashion, imposing a 7% tax on incomes above $500,000. You can research that further if you care to know the details.
    So you might say that the roots of Socialism in the U.S. was a bipartisan effort, beginning under Taft, a Republican, and becoming law under Wilson, and gradually expanding with a large surge under Roosevelt, and now an all out rush under Obama.

    Government has no power to reduce the wealth of the wealthiest, who provide their funding to obtain and retain power, so essentially you would be happy to just see the ruled class brought down to more or less equals, so that the wealthiest can amass even greater wealth.

    Yes, yippee, Obama may have been the prick (pun intended) needed to wake up the sleeping majority. McCain would have gone the same direction, but much less obtrusively.
     

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