Whats your position on flag burning?

Served (although not my choice) in SE Asia 69-70- - What you write above is very true. Wont get into any stories - but - Thank you for that post.
(I see we are a bit older then most , on this thread- that probably makes a little difference

jjack

 

why are you so angry at the stooges? they merely serve their corporate masters

i'd like to see some of your righteous anger directed at those who are well and truly draining the economy for purely their own benefit

after all, what are the individual salaries of all those bureaucrats? just regular working folks who got a little lucky

and if you like capitalism, then surely the government is doing its job by keeping the biggest capitalists fat and happy

funny, every time the government tries to actually help people, such as perhaps providing first world healthcare, those pesky corporations pull the strings

and we are left with crap

burn the puppetmasters, not the puppets . . .

 

This question is a no brainer

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Hotwater

 

Righteous anger? It's the politicians, both Democrat and Republican, who allow those with money, left wing as well as right wing capitalists, to be heard over the voices of the ordinary voters. Is the solution for the rest of us to simply serve our political masters?
I prefer a free market system, where choice is left to the individual as to where to work, how large a wage or salary to demand, and where to spend the money I earn.
Government should not be in the business of providing what it does not produce.

What about flag burning?

 

and you think that an even freer market than we already have will somehow be better?

you already have a choice where to work [unless you live in a really small town], you can demand any salary you like [you might not get it, but you can try], and you can spend your money where you want [after taxes, which are actually quite low right now]

as far as government providing what it does not produce, if it provides it, then it has produced it, right?

you prefer a for-profit insurance company to a non-profit? who's paying for the profit?

i think i have already stated my position

flags are stupid, burning them polluting, who cares?

 

Try starting a business and you'll see just how free the market is. Of course from the consumer point of view you're free to make market choices as you wish.

The choices do exist, with limitations. If you take a job in a unionized company, you become just one of many equals in wages based not on competence, but more often seniority. You can spend what money you have left after taxes, assuming you pay any at all, in which case others will spend it for you. Taxes are always low for those who pay none.

Sure, like a magician pulling a rabbit out of a hat. If you want government provided health care, would you feel comfortable with one of your representatives being the attending physician in a life threatening situation?

I prefer to pay out of pocket, although I support "for profit" insurance companies. Who pays the government administration fees for government "run" health care?

So you don't care about the environment?

 

i've been self-employed for 15 years, actually, piece of cake

i'd never worked in a unionized company, which means my wages had always been shitty, with no benefits -- wonderful freedom, that

i'm under the impression from my thoroughly happy and healthy british in-laws that it doesn't actually work that way

you'd prefer to pay out of pocket; i cannot afford to, so i go completely without health care

no, i do, which is why i mentioned the pollution

oh, the "who cares" means i think the whole topic is idiotic [as if 234 years of flag burning actually meant much stacked against even a single car]

 

People burn things they bought at wal-mart all the time. It's just stuff.

 

Self employed, and you don't pay yourself a decent wage or provide health insurance?

And my British friends complain.

Going without something is your choice, and doesn't impose upon me or others. Thanks.

Well, burning a flag, a car or anything else in anger is pretty much idiotic. I guess it takes all kinds.

 

don't have much choice, business has been pretty shitty since the 90s ended

this is not about me, anyways, apart from my wife and a couple dozen cats, nobody gives a rat's ass whether i live or die

this is about all the poor and middle class people of this country, who struggle to pay the salaries of the rich

the government that i am against is the one that has turned its back on them

eliminating that government, however, will take away any chance they have for any life better than that of the workhouse and the company town

the pre-civil war "golden age" that morons like lew rockwell love so much cannot be replicated today, not that most people would really want it to be

it's funny, my parents are historical re-enactors [tombstone, ugh], and conservative; is there a relationship between fuzzy-headed romanticism and fuzzy-headed political thinking?

 

btw i've never understood what the hell this means

 

flags are stupid idols

 

Not knowing what your business is, I can only guess that you attribute something Bush did that caused your business to suffer.

That's what family and friends are for.

By paying the salaries of the rich, I take it you mean by purchasing the products and/or services that they make available? Boycott them, put their employees on the street, and make them move their industries overseas.

That would depend on what you feel to be the responsibility of a government.

Socialism is but a stepping stone on the path to Communism, and the end result is a controlled life much greater than any company could ever impose.

I don't think you would find many persons who have that as their goal.

Coming from Georgia, I know a number of Liberals who participate in Civil war battle reenactments. Is that fuzzy-headed?

 

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."

Democracy: Majority rule, the numerical majority makes decisions which are binding upon the population at large.
The wolves can democratically decide to have lamb for lunch.

Liberty: Personal freedom, immunity from arbitrary exercise of authority.
Liberty is not granted by another or a government, but instead requires diligent attention by those who wish to retain it.
The well armed lamb can exercise its right of life and liberty initially by displaying a weapon, and if insufficient to acquire the desired result, putting it to use, after which only a tie vote can occur.

Right and wrong are often not rationally determined by a simple majority, and sometimes not even by unanimity. This is one reason the Constitution was written giving the Federal government enumerated powers, although they have been expanded greatly by reinterpretations of activist Justices over the last century or so.

 

A burning flag means as much to me as a burning pile of leaves, if the people who do this in protest of whatever really wanted to show they were serious they would burn money instead.

 

I wouldn't be burning paper money just yet. If an energy bill passes, the BTU value of the money may be greater than that of the fossil fuel it purchases.

 

My position on flag burning is usually standing over top of it and crouched down with a match

 

on the whole, i prefer unarmed lambs, rather than those in servitude to their weaponry

 

any romanticism about war is fuzzy-headed

[american penitentes]

considering you think the corporatist centrist obama is a socialist, i can only imagine what you consider a liberal

 

lol

really?

how long does it usually take?

[i'm dying]