Whats your position on flag burning?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by cannabis cam, Feb 12, 2008.

  1. Elijah

    Elijah Member

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    it's nothing more than childish and empty rebellion.


     
  2. Elijah

    Elijah Member

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    yes, it's a protest against a country that gives you the right to protest. a completely self defeating statement


     
  3. Individual

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    Where else could they go and get as much for so little in return?
     
  4. Elijah

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    why live anywhere on earth if you truly feel this way? why not just ask nasa to shoot you up into space asap?


     
  5. Elijah

    Elijah Member

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    definately reactionary


     
  6. Individual

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    If we are now defining "fire" to be speech, would burning a flag burner also be considered a form of free speech? At least that would produce some audible results.
     
  7. Elijah

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    the bible has passages about such things and does not speak negative of it.

     
  8. Elijah

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    the kkk also tends to extinguish it so it doesn't burn to ash. it supposedly represents christ as light unto the world. in the old days scottish clans also lit crosses afire to ward off invaders too. though the ku klux klan was never known to really do this until their secone era after the dw griffith film birth of a nation was released. and well, without hollywood hebrews, this film never would have been made public. also the kkk has a proven connection to scottish rite freemasonry too. freemasonry revolves aorund judaic symbolism and stories. they also use a chapter of romans to draw inspiration from. in their second era they were anti roman catholic. several pieces of irony right there

     
  9. vigilanteherbalist2

    vigilanteherbalist2 Senior Member

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    The constitution also talks about the power of the courts. The supreme court decides whether a statute is constitutional. so there's your answer.

    Where does it say specifilcally that it is okay to...pick your boogers and eat them?
     
  10. vigilanteherbalist2

    vigilanteherbalist2 Senior Member

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    you and this thread you created are ridiculous.

    there are many people on earth that feel it isn't necessary to have a piece of cloth to represent them. it's a piece of cloth. many people , including myself, consider themselves world citizens. the idea of patriotism or unity within such a vast and diverse country is stupid. we need human unity.
     
  11. Individual

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    Essentially you are saying that what we need is what cannot be had.
     
  12. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    why does the earth need flags? why does the earth need countries?

    oh yeah, there's still a whole bunch of people who think the dirt they were born in actually means something

    what the earth actually needs is less idiots

    do you think if i ask nasa they'll actually do it? that might be fun...and then i can make my very own mars flag!

    [where's the moron smiley?]
     
  13. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    mister fucking negativity
     
  14. Individual

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    Read what was said that I responded to.
     
  15. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    i did, what was said was "we need human unity"

    which i agree with, and which i think can be had

    some day, slowly . . .
     
  16. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    I'm more into church burning. And Mosque burning.
     
  17. Individual

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    But, prior to that was stated:

    "the idea of patriotism or unity within such a vast and diverse country is stupid."

    Unity, even within small groups of individuals is difficult to achieve, except in areas where all members can find benefit, and even then the perception that some are benefiting greater than others can become a disrupting factor. While the premise that human unity could be achieved is laudable, the means by which it could be approached would likely not be. The diversity of individual humans has to be considered and recognized. We each have differing likes and dislikes, wants and needs, not to mention the fact that the material resources are inadequate to suffice the current population, which only grows larger with the passage of time.
     
  18. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    :D yeah, i think i missed that "or unity" bit, thanks

    as to the rest of it, i'm not certain that all of human troubles are attributable to human nature, rather than nurture

    the problem seems to be how to raise humans properly

    i know from experience that leaving it to parents can be a disaster
     
  19. Individual

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    I do the same on occasion.

    Likely a combination of, and not limited to, both.

    I don't believe there is a single correct solution unless unless a means of absolute mind control can be devised.

    Not to mention the influence of friends, neighbors, teachers, TV, music, books, etc.

    Would a tightly controlled Orwellian society be the answer?

    We've gone a little astray of the "flag burning" question, which I consider to be akin to burning down ones house as a means of getting attention without addressing any problems in a way that brings about meaningful or lasting solutions. After all it's the politicians and not the flag which has become the source of most problems. If you really want political action, burn a few politicians, and the unburnt ones would most likely become quite receptive to listening and acting upon any grievances.
    In a free human society, most social problems have no single acceptable answer that is agreeable to all, and government tends to criminalize activities based on accomplishing an outcome desirable to those who wield power. Much like a Theocracy we end up with a government ruled by mortal and temporary "gods". The pendulum then swings Left and Right perpetually.
     
  20. FritzDaKatx2

    FritzDaKatx2 Vinegar Taster

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    Depends on which Countries. :cheers2:

    :willy_nilly:
     

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