Whats your position on flag burning?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by cannabis cam, Feb 12, 2008.

  1. jiva

    jiva Member

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    honestly i dont really get it..the flag represents the country not the government in my opinion so i would feel no need to protest against the country itself ..but i do believe you should be able to burn it if you want...why not? if you want to express whatever by burning a flag have at it its not hurting anything...
    i think you should be allowed to burn crosses if you see fit too but that your not usually allowed to do because of implied intent to intimidate..whatev
     
  2. vkk

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    I can accept it but I also think it should be acceptable to burn emblems of the groups who burn the American flag. A lot of the groups that burn the flag are such hypocrites. If somebody burns one of their emblems in protest they always attack the person.
     
  3. Psychedelic Rocker

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    Whats my position on flag burning?

    You have the freedom and the rights to burn the flag...

    but don't be a dick and actually do it.

    It don't prove anything really.

    Find a constructive way to voice your opinion.
     
  4. IntellectualCurious

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    whatever, its freedom of speech, kinda cliche these days though. I don't think its a big deal personally... i think a lot of people get too butthurt over it and give it too much power and/or meaning. I can respect it artistically though.
     
  5. tanasi

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    If ya bought it then do with it what ya want.Seems to me that if a flag is so close to the heart of a people they wouldn't have the chinese make them cheap so they can sell them.
     
  6. IntellectualCurious

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    i just don't see what the big deal is. Yeah, its symbolic, but its also just a piece of cloth, and I thought the U.S. was more than that.
     
  7. boguskyle

    boguskyle kyleboguesque

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    i support flag burning because i'm against nationalism at the simplest level. i believe anything that should be the closest to a nation, is the name of the landmass and nothing more. i think people that are sickened by flag burning are unconsciously sick. i also think the protest of flag burning is/can be used unintelligently or inaccurately as a notion of counter-culture, which i do not appreciate. oh and i dont think its a good method of protest.
    for me, when it comes to protest, anything goes. if its breaking a law directly then that's apparent. as for flag burning, its a bunch of people being butt-hurt about their own image they want to portray which they call "pride".

    sorry for going off but it's pretty much what i think
     
  8. themnax

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    well america isn't my religeon
    and nether is any other country, idiology nor economic theory.

    so it may well be neither option in the poll makes a whole lot of sense.

    america has done and continues to do a lot of not very nice things
    i'm not real sure what or how burning a flag is supposed to do anything about them
    but to each their own.
     
  9. Enjoy

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    a symbolic gesture would be to clean the flag
     
  10. themnax

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    yes, i think that would be a great idea. big conspicuous scrub brooms and mop buckets carried in a parade along with a giant flag and people all around it dipping the scrub brooms in the buckets and having them actually containing soapy water, and scrubing away at it while others carried it and held it up for them to do so.

    yes, i do think this would much better portray and send the kind of message that is needed.
     
  11. IntellectualCurious

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    how about bleach the flag then repaint it?
     
  12. Individual

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    Does anyone really care about the flag?
     
  13. larryelkhart

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    Once again, freedom of speech includes even those actions which would seem bad. The flag is a symbol of a country but only a symbol. Although I am saddened by the sight of someone burning the flag of my country, I must support their right to do so, even though I would treat my flag differently, I must allows those who I don't agree with the freedom to express themselves.
     
  14. Individual

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    Burning the flag to me is not exercising "free speech" any more than shooting someone you don't like is. It is a "free expression", which tells me that the term American only relates to where you were born or where you call home if born elsewhere.
     
  15. larryelkhart

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    It is interesting that all elected government officials, as well as military individuals swear an oath to protect and defend the constitution, not the flag. The flag is only a symbol, the constitution makes the country.
     
  16. ItsAndrewBet

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    I don't pledge to it, and I sure as hell would burn it.
    I really dislike our gov't, so burning it is I guess "stickin' it to the man", haha.
     
  17. Individual

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    Curious that noncommissioned military also have to swear or affirm that they will also obey the orders of the President of the U.S. in addition to the orders of the officers over them, while the commissioned officers do not.
    What might be the symbolic meaning of burning the flag? Perhaps it would be more meaningful to burn copies of the constitution, in that the actions of many politicians today appear to have symbolically done so already. Obama, while having taken the oath of office, immediately voiced his disapproval with what the Constitution says, and there are several photos and videos of him refusing to salute the flag during the playing of the National anthem.
     
  18. Individual

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    When you say you "really dislike our gov't", exactly what are you saying? You dislike the form of government, as laid out under the Constitution, you dislike the politicians who form the government, or something else? I don't see where burning the flag sends a clear message to anyone other than perhaps, enemies of the country it is a symbol of.
     
  19. larryelkhart

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    It is interesting that officers are commissioned by an act of congress. i.e. their commission is voted on in our Congress.
    The reason Obama dislikes our constitution is that it restricts what he can do. If we didn't have the constitution he would have already made this a socialist state with him being dictator for life.
    Thank you founding fathers for our constitution.
     
  20. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    I don't know about the US flag, but i'm pissed with the UK one

    Where the f0king hellz is the Welsh part? We have a lovely amalgamation of Scotland, Ireland and England, but no one really cares about them anyways :D

    I wouldn't burn the flag but I would happily draw a dragon on the front of everyone one. I mean, it's a friggin' dragon- that is cool :cool:
     

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