What's Your Opinion On Banning Smoking In Jail?

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What's your opinion on banning smoking in jail?

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  1. Fluffernutter

    Fluffernutter Member

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    In Australia they have just banned smoking in jail, making tobacco contraband.
     
  2. secret_thinker

    secret_thinker Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Good subject.

    While I'm tempted to sit on the fence with this topic I'm going to say it's a negative thing to ban smoking in prisons.

    Yes it's an addiction but it's probably the lesser of some addictions of people in prisons and it's legal.

    I actually gave up smoking a long time ago but it grinds my gears a little bit how the government is making it so strict about where you can an can't smoke but still allowing it to be legal. If they want to get serious on this matter, why not ban it completely?!
     
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  3. Mattekat

    Mattekat Ice Queen of The North

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    I agree completely with secret thinker. It's not nearly as bad as other actual contraband they could be getting, and if they are legal, inmates should be allowed to have them. I also think it's a bit mean to take away their cigarettes. It's probably one of the few comforts they get in jail.

    It reminds me of when they banned smoking in retirement homes and care facilities here. It's sort of a different issue but I thought that was horribly mean. It's too late for quitting to affect most people in retirements homes much, and many of them can't get outside on their own. And to put someone, who is unable to care for themselves and possibly has many other health conditions already, through withdrawal aswell sounds horrible to me.
     
  4. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    I lost sympathy for tobacco smokers long ago.
    Is it a complete ban or just where they can smoke?
    The inmates forfeited their privileges whenever they committed whatever crime landed them in jail, and smoking is a PRIVILEGE, not a right, so fuck 'em.

    banning it in retirement homes makes perfect sense. Should the other residents be subjected to inhaling the smoke from others, especially when there are certainly people in there with compromised health in the first place. If they can go outside and smoke, why subject others to it?
    Smoking is a personal choice, being subjected to another person's smoke in enclosed area is NOT a matter of personal choice, so fuck them old farts who want to smoke as well, they can wheel themselves outside if they want to smoke.

    not to mention the fact that tobacco smoke permeates an entire building and the smell DOES NOT go away.
    it is a matter of common courtesy

    and yes, I smoked cigs for about 15 years before finally being able to quit with help from those nicotine patches, and I still get cravings.
    so don't think for a moment that I am not familiar with the power of nicotine addiction.
     
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  5. Meliai

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    prison inmates can get drugs in prison with the right connections, so I'm pretty sure banning cigarettes wont actually cut down on smoking in prison. Cigarettes will just become more of a currency than they already are.
     
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  6. Heat

    Heat Smile, it's contagious! :) Lifetime Supporter

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  7. Backchat

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    Banning smoking in jails is a good idea because it's an unhealthy habit, which may eventually lead to the death of the smoker by cancer or other smoking related diseases. Obviously banning smoking will hopefully break the habit, because they wont have access to cigarettes.

    The problem is that where you get a lot of people smoking together such as in prisons, you get a toxic build up of cigarette smoke in the air, which can be harmful to non smokers as well.
     
  8. deleted

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    Therefore more inmates will require/seek psychiatric medications.. and the taxpayers fit the bill. With tobacco the inmates are responsible for their own.
     
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  9. BlackBillBlake

    BlackBillBlake resigned HipForums Supporter

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    I don't think it should be banned in jails unless it's banned everywhere else, and we'll wait a long time for that given the billions in revenues governments collect from tobacco taxation.
     
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  10. mallyboppa

    mallyboppa Senior Member

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    I no longer smoke nor am I in Jail so its hard for me to give an opinion based on how I feel about smoking there
    But I think smokers ( when they are Smoking ) should be kept away from people that don't smoke , If that is possible in jail I don't know
     
  11. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    have they banned ALL tobacco use or just smoking it?
     
  12. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    its an enclosed environment. second hand smoke in the enclosed space puts correctional officers and other inmates at risk.

    what about alcohol? should inmates ought to be able to buy a beer from commissary? What about liquor?
     
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    nobody told them to work there..
    besides its often the correctional officers union that keeps tobacco at the facility..
     
  14. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    what about the other inmates, they dont have a choice.

    i doubt the health of inmates is the reason though .. just proposing one possible rational reason.
     
  15. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Good idea. Ban the smokes and install video cameras everywhere and televise on a internet site somewhere. Watch all of them go through withdrawals etc. be a right fucking laugh IMO.
     
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  16. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

    theres another thread here with same subject and i still give the same answer as i did years ago


    i believe that prison should segregate the smokers into a non smoking section....and the non smokers should be put in a seperate area where artificial cigarette smoke is piped in
     
  17. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

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  18. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    an entire town tries to quit cold turkey....
    one of the funniest movies ever made.....

    https://youtu.be/ML9ZPDFC1TI
     
  19. Heat

    Heat Smile, it's contagious! :) Lifetime Supporter

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    Great for a movie plot but I am not sure I would like to be in lock down with a whole lot of people who are in withdrawal. :)
     
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  20. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    that is what the cells and solitary confinement is for.
     

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