What's wrong with Globalization?

Open in this case would mean publicise the bildeberg thinktank reports and make open your G8 plans for the world economy - dont carve up the world without my consent.
dont leave us the people who put you in place to surmise your tactics - you are there at our discretion. we are not your slaves

Fair means dont kill people and starve them to death in my name

obviously

 

Oh I didnt realise thats what you were trying to do - otherwise I would have put a suit on and brushed my hair!

What you mean I'm not sticking to the script so you cant get an opportunity to infect everyone with your perception of justice and good politics - Oh dont lose hope I'm sure you'll find originality somewhere - just come back when you've learnt how to combat the rhetoric of the new left - but you wont do it with the stale odious smoke filled burnt out nonsense the right always uses - you have think quicker is all

 

Check out this website. It concerns the PEOPLE'S GLOBALIZATION. Or rather, PLANETIZATION.

www.planetization.org

Edit: also, I didn't vote in this poll because I'm not satisfied with the options. I think there should be at least 1 more. Should be, "is terrible when in the hands of multi-national corporate and military interests". That way, saying it's terrible won't have to mean that we want "isolated nation states". Wise up to whats really going on.

 

well a rising tide DOESN"T raise all economic boats, not when the big boats depend on unequal exploitation of the smaller ones.

exporting jobs to where labour is cheaper is a kind of defacto slavery, often encouraging and exploiting a slavery that is more then defacto.

that being said, there is nothing intrinsicly wrong with international trade, just the way of looking at it, the kinds of policies that are being currently involved with it.

real hippies used to favor and promote another KIND of 'globalization' though, not of trade, or at least not exclusively, but of closing no border to any unarmed civilian at any time for any reason. i still think we need THAT. we ARE ONE humanity. borders are for the most part immaginary lines that exist only in the minds of people who know there is someone with a gun somewhere telling you not to cross them without going through the proper esoteric rituals first.

the fiction of borders and some sort of mystical legitimacy to hierarchal soverignty enable self serving interests to 'dehumanize' people in other places so their own people let them get away with doing terrible things that if they went on in their own country they would at the very least not whole heartedly approve of.

if there is to be trade without borders, trade UNIONS need to go, and be allowed to go, wherever there is trade, to protect ALL the workers engauged in it.

(and extreme isolation, as the choice of options in this poll defacto suggests, ISN'T the only alternative to an exclusively economic and exploitive definician of 'globalization')

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Although I agree with everything you said, including the above (the above in principle only) theres another way of looking at it. A country like Britain sees itself as having a natural border because its a large island with a sovereign state. So in a way although what you say is true - perception of that truth is altered when in the case of an island for example.

Interesting post BTW themnax - didnt you used to post over at digitalmeltd0wn?

 

ah yes, sure did. far as i know i'm the only themnax on the net. and i am themnax every place they don't 'make' me use my mundane name.

you're that british or scottish chap that we were talking about china going from what it was to what it more less is and how that chainged the names and excuses more then the behaviors of governments and industrial supervison that is no longer as much in the government at least in name, but i'm still seriously doubting how much real freedom that has brought anybody or is likely to. that's my guess.

and i HAVE been learning and getting bit by bit better with blender. i'm on biorust now too.

although i don't play with it as much or as often as i ought to, as i'm learning some new train sims too.

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and of course oceans and seas ARE considerably more REAL borders, then immaginary lines ruled on a map streight accross mountains and forrest and whatever else might happen to actualy be there on the ground.

although immaginary streight lines drawn accross oceans are even less vissible to fish and marine mammels then even the ones on land are to little furry creatures with big sharp teeth.

but yes, the boudry between land and sea, aside from tidal fluctuations, is pretty unambiguous, even to nonhuman life forms.

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On the 10th of August, 2006, the Economic Times published an article written by Dr. Nikhil Sinha entitled Sourcing Global Transformation.

Nikhil Sinha begins this article recognizing that our time is that of great transformation and creation of a new global system. He proceeds to say that the two key features of this order are globalization and the revolution in information and communication technologies.

Dr. Nikhil Sinha then discusses the idea of global sourcing (outsourcing, in-sourcing, offshoring), which he describes as one of the most prominent examples of this revolution, and its impact on corporations, companies, individual employees and consumers.

http://www.hcl.in/art_nikhil.asp

 

Well - Globalization is big business to the max. It is defined by the transnational, really.
The really big players. Some of the NAFTA lawsuits lately have been pretty silly. We're always going to have a rough time with a corporate entity that claims the rights of a human being.
Global trade doesn't know how to exist without creating the likes of this: A 5-course meal that traveled perhaps 3 times around the planet - if you add up all the different ingredients.
The automobile whose components have done the same - not to mention the 12,000 mile pair of jeans.
This will never be good for the environment - unless "just in time" delivery parlays back into sail power.
Globalization (with the blessings of the World Bank, the IMF and the WTO) has removed countless peasants from the land, and exchanged subsistance farming with monoculture. Starving people fighting for low-wage manufacturing jobs in third world cities whose growth is no joke. (refer to Mike Davis' Planet of Slums).
Globalization promotes the neocon giant corporate replacement of the state - and the state's best intentions to advocate on behalf of their citizens.
We must not forget the transnationals by definition - have no national identity. What this really means is that they are answerable to no-one (except shareholders.)
Globalization by definition is also energy-intensive. Cheap energy makes it possible, and profitable. Ever-increasing expenditure of energy depletes finite resources, kicks the crap out of the ecosystem, warms the planet, and increases tension due to competition for valuable resources.
All these things will catch up with us sooner or later. Any intelligent human being capable of grasping future developments can grasp these outcomes.
Corporations refuse to do this - because their prime concern is short-term profit.
A neocon does not need to concern himself with what the economic reality will be for his great-grandchildren - as long as he has a few dozen millions to bequeath them.
Altogether a religion of waste - the way to the greatest profit margin is to remove from the pocket of the laborer.
Comes the day when they succeed in owning property rights to something like fresh water. What's next? Fresh air? Language? Thoughts.
But seriously. How many places in the world even now - do people struggle to maintain control over herbal medicines / simple plant economies?
Many farmers no longer plant seed crops - or maintain any control over this. Corporations maintain ownership of the seeds. They do many many stupid, foolish and reckless things in the name of profit. They do this and succeed - because they are very powerful.
Because they are powerful - does not give them absolution for what they do.

 

Sir Thomas Moore wrote about this in his book : Utopia, written in the 1500's

 

Hundreds of great authors have been harping on it for some time now.
And your point is?

 

*points to japan*

 

I do not think that glbalization is such a bad thing.


I think however that most people how are the drivers of globalisation are the ones which are not global at all. These are our politicians!

For globalization to work in my opinion politicians need to be only consulted to progress globalization. All the other billions of people around the world are the ones which make up globalization and which can make globalization work in my opinion.

Fabian

 

Well

the point is that its nothing new.

Moore wrote about enclosing common sheep grazing areas, Crofters cottages transitioning to sheep pasture.

Technological progress produces these changes and it can only accelerate
as innovation happens.

We as a people have to face it by stepping up to the change.
Economic creation & distruction will occour with or without us.

Our economy has to make a home for both capitalists and workers.

 

couldn't have said it better and your poll answers were VERY biased

 

I believe in a one human 'nation', so I'm naturaly an Anti-Globalist? hm. I'm totally against the concept of independent nations.

 

Here is why economic globalization is bad:


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3072291302771620276&q=capitalism

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3072291302771620276&q=capitalism

Awesome video - This has totally reformed my ideas on SOCIALISM. I'm a SOCIALIST!

 

I posted the wrong link, this one is related to globalization

John Pilger - The New rulers of The World

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7932485454526581006&q=The+New+Rulers+of+the+World+John+Pilger&hl=en

 

but dude .. that other one was awesome. I did think: wtf does it have to do with globalization? ha

 

yeah hey like wow dude ! yeah youy know man thats cool cuz like me and this other guy we like totally freaked when we realised that like everyone on earth is human and that we should all stop having wars and shit.

Yeah man like hey woooooo hooo ! lets cool the planet down and live in harmony - yeah right

EAT THE FUCIN RICH IF YOU CANT STOMACH THEIR POLITICS