What's wrong with Globalization?

Discussion in 'Globalization' started by superacidjax, Oct 17, 2006.

  1. Mellow Yellow

    Mellow Yellow Electrical Banana

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    Exactly.

    In the long run, globalization can be a good thing, as the standard of living in places like India and China improves, the cost of living goes up, wages go up, and eventually it's no longer feasible for us to import stuff from them, because the cost of their goods is no longer competitive.

    It's what's happening in the short term that's the problem, a manifestation of corporate greed, which our government seems to promote, so all we can do is change our habits as consumers. If on a large scale we can switch our preferances from foreign produced goods to locally produced goods, the economic climate will shift. Sure, it's more expensive to buy local, but that's a sacrifice we must be willing to make for our own good.

    Think globally, act locally. Buy local.
     
  2. unity100

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    globalization is trend towards the 'one world' you people always are dreaming for.

    done right, itll create a world that has no borders and no wars.

    done wrong peopole will be bitches to megacorporations.
     
  3. LosingBalance

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    In regards to the question "is Globalization a good thing?" I believe,

    without fault, that it is simply unavoidable. Everything can be viewed as

    good or bad, and everything can be debated. The debate in and of itself

    is the one thing of most value to our future. I'm shocked at the lack of

    interest, shown in the media, of what is CLEARLY happening before us

    today. Where is the true debate? Where is the RATIONAL discussion of

    the plethora of opportunities for an abuse of power in a Globalized

    world? Is it safer to tune in...turn off? If anything comes out of any

    discussion forum on the topic of Globalization, let's make sure every

    human being is part of that discussion. The only solution to that one, of

    course, is to push the issues; Push the fears; Push the possibilities; Push it

    all to the attention of the media until real, and persistent, questions are

    posed!
     
  4. Shredda_King

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    Good to see someone has some common sense regarding this topic instead of worrying about petty issues like unique cultures and ways of life, which only perpetuate the idea that some humans are separate from others.
     
  5. unity100

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    not every culture, tradition deserve preservation, just because they exist.

    if so, we should have preserved cannibalism, since it was a long standing tradition in africa - they believed if you kill and eat a visitor you like, s/he would forever stay with you.

    tradition after all. culture. it needs to be preserved. right ? well i say no.
     
  6. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    this is mistaken on several counts, reguardless of which, destruction for the sake of symbolic value, of anything and everything that might appear even slightly to stand in its way, leaves only symbolic crap, while screwing real people, places and things, reguardless of their attatchment to tradition in any sense of the word, or lack of it as the case might be.

    =^^=
    .../\...
     
  7. SpaceChive

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    I think what's wrong is based on two things:
    one: there aer just way too many people, wich means too many factories, too high production and we being like a cancer to the planet. If we were for instance only a million, there would not be somehing in this world like globalisation.
    two: we always want bigger, better, more, no matter what. Globalisation makes us able to interact with anyone around the world and trade with almost any country. Big companies are moving their factories to places like Africa because its cheaper, but only for one step in the proces: for example, one pair of nike shoes is made in about 4 different countries. that costs a lot of money (maybe not for the company itself but it is at the expense of the people in the factories because there is not enough money to give them a decent pay)
    We want it cheaper better and more no matter if we are to blame for little children dieing of hunger and illness because they work 10 hours a day for a measly 3 bucks a week that cannot even feed them properly.
     
  8. eagle86100

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    Is it 'Globalization' or 'Americanization' of the world?
     
  9. Utilitarian

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    Jobs are outsources because standards of education are increasing in other countries. You didn't see the victorian British cry and complain when other countries started to industrialise because they believed in honour and prestige and we should aswell. It's called competition, besides we have better advantages for education in the 1st world than in India and China so it is almost our duty to use it to learn difficult skills instead of pretending the low skills we've learnt are worth more than they actually are.
     
  10. Mellow Yellow

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    Competition is healthy. Greed is not.
     
  11. Utilitarian

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    Sloth and greed are 2 cheeks of the same buttox.

    Greed is when you demand more than what you work for.
    Sloth is when you expect what you didn't work for.

    Since people are going to be sinful regardless I prefer them to be working.
     
  12. Jack-a-Roe72

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    There are definitely some problems with Globalization and the poll doesn't even name half of them. As far as I'm concerned, it is a loaded poll.

    Globalization plays right into the hands of corporations in finding a cheaper source for labor outside of the US. This leads to thousands being laid off in our own country in favor of Asia or Mexico. This results in the suppression of our own economy and a boost to other country's economies. And the politicians, who were elected to stop the problem, will continue to encourage globalization, as long as it lines their pockets.

    Big Box stores have their products made outside of the USA so that we pay less for them. We are tricked into thinking we are getting quantity.. but what really happens is that all quality of a product is sacrificed for cheap labor... We used to pay less for more when products were made here in the USA... and now we only THINK we are paying less for more- in reality- we are paying more for less...

    Globalization trades something for nothing. A long time ago, all of the little towns and small cities of America used to be completely unique from one another- and now???

    All little towns have the same big box stores, and the same fast food restaurants, and the same chains........and then when we go over seas to see the little towns and cities in different nations.... they all have the same stores and the same fast food restaurants as what we had back in our little towns back in America.

    Globalization takes everything unique and different from ALL of us... and gives us nothing in return. We end up poorer and the companies and conglomerates end up far wealthier.
     
  13. Jack-a-Roe72

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    Maybe Molly the Hippy could read Utopia by Thomas More.

    Since when are unique cultures and ways of life "petty things"????

    Are you shitting me? Do you even hear what you are saying???

    Unique cultures and ways of life are the ONLY things that separate us from one another!!!! They are the ONLY things that make us unique and different. If it weren't for unique cultures and ways of life, we would never disagree with one another... there would never be any debate... no different ideas...no one would stand for anything!. no roots... NOTHING.

    We would all be the same person!! We might as well be numbered robots!! It might as well be 1984.

    Are you fucking NUTS?!?! Why would anyone want that?!

    PLEASE... there is more to this issue than the meaningless yuppy crap that tends to fall out of your mouth.
     
  14. Mellow Yellow

    Mellow Yellow Electrical Banana

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    You got it!

    Globalization is an effective way to stomp out individuality and creativity, this is true. As corporations grow larger and more consolidated, their workers lose more and more freedoms, and consumers are left with less and less choices, I've seen this time and time again in personal experience. Furthermore, the added bureaucracy of managing such large entities actually reduces efficiency.

    A guy I knew managed a brewery that was part of a chain. He decided to be a maverick (not in the McCain sense) and introduced live music to the establishment, which got me in there in the first place. Business thrived as a result, but the big brass at headquarters decided live music wasn't part of their "business culture", so they pulled the plug, and we all stopped going.

    I like to frequent those local mom and pop places whenever possible, and I often find the prices are comparable, if not cheaper, than those big chain stores. The environment is a lot friendlier, and the service is a hell of a lot better. When you go to a place like Home Depot to buy hardware supplies, you get a bunch of over-worked, under-paid employees who often don't know what the hell they're talking about, and most of the money you're paying for the product goes to some nameless, faceless fat cats in pin striped suits sitting in some office building far away. On the other hand, go to a small local hardware store, and more likely than not you'll deal with the owner directly, who knows everything about everything they sell, and that's the person who's making the money you're paying for the product. It seems to me like a no-brainer.
     
  15. agentyumi

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    “the effects of globalization are not equal.” While globalization is a boon to Asia and India, wages for many American workers are down substantially or have remained the same over the last five years. This direct competition with substantially cheaper labor and goods has had a direct negative impact on working Americans’ ability to provide for their families.
     
  16. Funkateer

    Funkateer To swing on the spiral

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    my big deal is there are to many ways for the higher ups to take advantage of globalization
     
  17. woodsman

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    right on.
     
  18. woodsman

    woodsman Senior Member

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    Thats the main complaint in the US about globalization and world trade. The problem is, the politicians aren't representing the worker, they're representing the corporate execs who stand to make the most off the cheap labor. The profits go to the top and the bigwigs are the ones who make the money. The politicians who set trade policy are in bed with the execs which is why the production base is being sold off to the third world and Americans are suffering as a consequence.
     
  19. Funkateer

    Funkateer To swing on the spiral

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    wrd to perfectly said
     
  20. Ludicrous

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    Cultures change and are destroyed all the time. The cultures we see in the world now are not necessarily anything at all like they were a thousand years ago, and many cultures that existed a thousand years ago do not exist anymore. Although I think all of us can agree that no culture should be destroyed, I don't see why why we can't all also celebrate the change they go through as they interact and merge. Things can't stay the same forever. We live in a changing universe.

    In any matter, globalization has different components: cultural, economic, political, and technological. You'd be hard pressed to find a decent argument against economic or technological globalization. I believe most problems people have against globalization are with the other components, cultural especially.
     

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