What's with all the bad vibes?

Anywhere there are people, there will be conflict. But some people carry stuff too far, and take general topics too personally (republican I know uses many personal attacks against me because I made a few comments about my moral objections against the war. They weren't even aimed at him, but he took it upon himself to make half his arguement cosist of calling me spineless and stupid). All the while, many people will be offended too easilly by jokes and the like. People are too differant as it is, and when you have people from all over the world in one place, confrontations are unavoidable...

However, some people are just instigators, and there are enough problems without them starting crap.

 

this place... this is probably the most interesting community of people i've found on the entirety of the internet. while it obviously attracts a lot of hippies and wannabes, it seems to attract the best kinds of awfully different people more than anywhere else around. thankfully i found this place when i did, or i'd be probably still be the druggie wannabe hippie i so desperately wanted to be when i was 16

 

I agree, without this forum I would have still been a crack whore teenage prostitute on the dark alleys of the Honduras, sucking dick for rock. CRAAAACK ROOOOOCK!

 

the same can be said for many forumdwellers

thank you, hipforums. :H

 

im with you. I am not much of a fighter unless someone does something bad to someone I love. :]

 

No, that isn't necessarily true, and that assumption/assertion is a big part of the problem. Conflict is not inherent in personal relationships (even online), but we are told from the time we are in diapers that it is. What is it that's said in politics, tell a lie often enough and everyone will believe it?

Please, quit accepting that we have to fuss and fight. Quit thinking that it is "normal". And please, quit fulfilling the predictions of those who say it is.
:banghead:

 

I have to disagree with you, conflict IS inherent in any group. Conflict doesn't have to be screaming and insults, it is anytime that two different people both think that their way is best. There is no problemm there. Conflict is required for interesting debate. If everyone always agreed on everything life would be boaring. Look to nature for the evidence. For most animals life is a day to day struggle filled with conflict. So there is nothing wrong with it, it is a facet of life.

 

Greetings Captain, and thank you for joining the discussion.
You have a good point, I should say that the point I believe you intend is, and it is a good observation. It is the word "conflict" that is the problem, if this is changed to "disagreement", then I entirely support this point, for disagreement is inevitable in any long term interpersonal relationship and is practically a default condition in a broad spectrum forum such as this one. I continue to agree that disagreement is a vital factor in the growth of a community and the individuals that comprise it, but it is the way in which we handle disagreement that determines the maturity level, and I would assert the humanity of a community.
What however is not necessary, is actually actively detrimental to a community, and a sign of active decay is, rudeness, disrespect, and hostility, that people jumped to the defense of those behaviors, is disheartening.
"All that is required for evil to flourish, is for good to do nothing."

Now back to this notion of conflict, again I agree with you about conflict being natural, I risk being misinterpreted here greatly, but I caution those who would do so, I have no tolerance for having information twisted to suit some maligned desire to defend behavior that is harmful to a community.

The Earth and all life on it are precious, and even as a non-theist, I hold this in sacred regard, however "nature" is red in tooth and claw, and from a "natural selection" origin of humankind, this results in a behavioral repetoire, based in survival of the fittest, and therefore "the self" is first priority. This is the "nature" of humankind, this is the established mindless machine that is driving mankind into insane self destruction, and this must change.
To those who wish to go on with such inflated self regard as to attack this position either do so logically, with reason, and respect, or Drop the petty bullshit people, love can conquer all, and we can disagree, and grow, and love, without the hostility.
To those who find hostility entertaining, those are the type of folks I can see having box seats at the coliseum, when once before in history a community of humans held forth the notion of love and peace as the guiding principles for behavior, and for their efforts became lion meals.
Sine cera
Epiphelion, First Knight, The EverQuest*
*The quest that one day we may truly, fully human be, with all the wonder of that experience, rather than modified naked apes behaving like animals.

 

Anyone who truly believes that conflict is necessary for survival in the natural world should look at the recent discoveries about the Bonobo. While the chimp, a physically similar primate, is in decline in most of its habit in part due to the vicious fighting and infanticide by the jealous males, the Bonobo is thriving. Chimps interact by fighting and killing each other and their offspring, Bonobos interact by having sex and making lots of baby Bonobos.

See, the old hippies were right - make love, not war.

 

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Gosh, mmmmmm .... I wouldn't be telling too many people this kind of creepy stuff about your propensity to indulge in such activity. And, my! Such language!

Michaela
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"They will never make a perfect heart unless they
make one that can't be broken."
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I have found my self less and less eager to check up with the goings ons around here.....bad vibes???? yup, I have felt it. I dont venture too much outside the good ol hippies forums, and I find myself a bit more selective in what, and how, I talk about things.

 

I can't help it.

Crack kills but it also thrills.