What's the benefit of being judgmental?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by *MAMA*, Apr 12, 2014.

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  1. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Your truth is that there's nothing to gain, and that there's nothing wrong with fat people running because they're trying to improve their health. And while I whole heartedly agree with you, we may be inclined to judge those who made fun in that thread as judgemental assholes because their truth (fat people shouldn't run) is different from our truth.

    We judge the judgers. So all I'm saying is. Lets just admit that we do it too and not pretend that we're above it.

    I fully understand your OP and respect your point, I even agree with most of what you say. I just wanted to point out that the reasons for judging are irrelevant because we're all guilty. There's no greater or lesser degree.

    And furthermore that it seems silly to not consider it judging when the opinion is in our favour.
     
  2. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    May I interject that there is absolutely nothing wrong with "judging" others.
    As many have pointed out, it would be far more precarious if we didn't form quick judgements about others at times
     
  3. *MAMA*

    *MAMA* Perfectly Imperfect

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    Indeed. That's why I felt the need to later specify types of judgment.
     
  4. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Why frown? Be your own truth. Fat, skinny, bald, tall, short, terrible cook, whatever it is. Don't be hurt just because someone else sees you in a way you don't see yourself. You're you and you should be proud. Fuck em if they believe otherwise.
     
  5. Moonglow181

    Moonglow181 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Well, as a kid in school, I got beaten up all the time and bullied to no end ...made fun of for wearing glasses....had my glasses thrown in toilet bowls, etc..... and going home...had a mom who I did not know if she was going to rip me to pieces that day or build me up.....so my self esteem was pretty bad....I am doing pretty damn good, though, if i say so myself in spite of it all....!:D

    don't blame my mom. I love and loved her. She had her own demons, which I later understood, but I always feared her more than anything.....

    sometimes something can trigger an old hurt I guess, is all.
     
  6. Sallysmart

    Sallysmart Raynstorm Serenade

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    To say fat people shouldn't run is childish and idiotic, to tell your friend she is too big for the pants she is wearing, In a nice way is negative but in a positive way if the one saying so is doing it to protect their friend from a horrible fashion crash. We can't see both as negative in a judgmental way, that fat people thing is a total disrespect and lack of understanding and lack of maturity. I would never tell my over weight friend Not to run but if she put on some clothing that let it all fly while running, I would tell her there are things you can wear that are nice for running, at least I hope I would, if she'd just be offended I might not. Maybe she liked how they were hanging in the store and feels they are ok for her. Often I look at something and think, cool! I like it but I am definitely not built for everything and that sucks. Have bought an item or two that wasn't right when I got it home. Some people can wear almost anything. Me, I can wear most women's jeans because it looks like I have pouches on my sides, can't fill the hips they put in them and I have had friends say they are too big for me, too big? Nope just the way they look, the waist band fits because I know my size, but all styles don't always do us right once on. Once someone tells me it isn't working I will take another look and probably realize they could be right.
     
  7. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Kids are ignorant and often lack any social tact as well as a depth of understanding for the world around them. As Cat Stevens said of youth, "You're still young. That's your fault."

    I think you'd benefit a lot more from focusing on things like your great taste in music and awesome sense of humour, and I'm sure a plethora more of great things we don't know about you. :)
     
  8. *MAMA*

    *MAMA* Perfectly Imperfect

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  9. Moonglow181

    Moonglow181 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    You are funny, Mama...I think of some of those 2 ton women singing for instance and shaking it and smiling and you just have to love them....confidence does rule....:)

    no, I am not fat........i don't think.....lol
     
  10. Sallysmart

    Sallysmart Raynstorm Serenade

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    I congratulate you for getting past this and even more for telling us this and showing you faced it and are doing ok. You look pretty damn good for the wear tho, just so you know. If I was a guy I'd be all over you because you are real, and pretty after all you been through. Not saying this to play on anything, I am saying it because my sister was much like you, glasses and all and I had to protect her, I felt bad for her. She is past it sort of but does let old memories take her down when stuff isn't right, even tho she usually had someone who would help. Some don't get to where you are and it's sad, what's more sad is those people weren't being judgmental they were being idiots and hopes are they paid later for their stupidity, at least to the point they came to realize what harm they were putting out.
    Chances are great that you look better now then many of them do because at different stages of our lives we age and learn differently. Seriously, some people look great as babies or kids and then they are just average like the rest of our world, or their Momma's who spoiled them wouldn't anymore and they are dragging around three kids working three jobs,,, hey life is about changes and you look like you did well. You also have strong morals and that's a good thing, people like that in others.
     
  11. *MAMA*

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    I agree. Confident people are my favorite. Fat or not, makes no difference to me as long as you're happy.
     
  12. Moonglow181

    Moonglow181 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    no toothpick either, yet, though....LOL!
     
  13. scratcho

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    As was said(somewhere back in there), the ability to survive the rigors of being human in the savage and dangerous prehistoric world in which we began, the ability to form immediate judgements concerning the ever present threat of death/danger from OTHERS, increased our precedents awareness of and preparation for dealing with OTHERS and their intentions. Age old and necessary.

    That ability/necessity to judge, vitally important as it was, did not simply disappear with the passage of time. Since most humans are not threatened with imminent death/danger on a daily basis as was the case, judgement of OTHERS now takes the form of shallow, unimportant facets of the daily lives of OTHERS in this day and age. This "modern" form of judgement has virtually no importance at all. Unless one makes important the blather from OTHERS.

    Although maybe I missed the point MAMA is trying to make.
     
  14. Moonglow181

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    So, to surmise, yes, judgement at times, is necassary for survival....:)
     
  15. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    There is a quality of judgement that is helpful and one that is not. Judgement on a sliding scale of worthiness is not helpful as all things extant are lawful and are better understood in terms of function and on this basis helpful or not considering the function's desired aim. Further our powers of distinction are most defining in distinguishing one thing from another and recognizing what is the same and what is different.
     
  16. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    We can rise above our primal instincts, and we should.
     
  17. mrmic

    mrmic Member

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    Not all of them!!! (referring to the should) lol
     
  18. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

    one account only per thread there chief
     
  19. *MAMA*

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    Mrmic is a puppet account?? Fuck. Lol
     
  20. Sallysmart

    Sallysmart Raynstorm Serenade

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    What is a puppet account?
     
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