What's Obama's true agenda?

Here's a pic of America's troops, guarding opium poppy fields in Afghanistan..



I've spoken with Military Recruiters, who told me. "I can get in a lot of trouble for saying this; but the Iraq war, is only about oil."

The UN made an illegal ragime change in Libya, and the whole idea that a Panel of SOME countries, can dictate the whole world, that IS bulling.

The world doesn't belong to the UN, but rather, the people who inhabit it.

And OdonII, I disagree with your whole premise. I'm talking about businesses and greedy elitist, who currently poison Americas seed supply and water (Monsanto.) I highly doubt their intentions are to save the world, but instead, keep the world in constant war and peril, just for the sake of population control...

Also, I've been naming which Rights have been taken. It's nearly every Right!

Fuck! The only Constitutional Right America has left, is the Right to Bear Arms. Funny, while everyone's talking about Gun Control...

 

You're all brainwashed by the government. Do you even know what's been going on?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nXg2WsNCrW4

WAKE UP!! Liberal/Democrats are just as involved with the Military industrial Complex as republicans! They need war to finance their welfare. But they just use the excuse of "Human rights" and "evil dictators" and they can start any war they want. We're still in Afghanistan, we're drone striking Pakistan and Yehmen with no types of declarations. America is the Biggest bully, but our involvement with the UN justifies it. The UN said "Drone striking may be against international Rights." But they haven't stopped Obama from doing it!!! I wonder why...

 

2009:Richard Holbrooke, the Obama Administration’s top envoy in Afghanistan, says that poppy eradication – for years a cornerstone of U.S. and U.N. anti-drug efforts in the country – has only resulted in driving Afghan farmers into the hands of the Taliban.

The new approach, Holbrooke maintains, will try to wean the farmers of the lucrative cash crop by giving them help to grow other produce, like wheat, corn and pomegranates.
http://rainbowwarrior2005.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/afghanistan-troops-guarding-the-poppy-fields/



Afghanistan
Opium Survey 2012
Opium Risk Assessment
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They clearly have no idea what they are talking about.

I think you kinda ignored the responses I made and decided to talk about something else instead.

You said: 'While taking away peoples Human Rights, in their own respective countries.'
I can't recall you naming rights being removed by the UN through out the world.
I can only recall you mentioning the rights you perceived were being taken away from you in the U.S by the U.S gov'.

 

The Taliban is not terrorist. They are not Al Qaeda. They are citizens who a tired of America's meddling in their country, who take up Arms because they feel like their government isn't doing anything. Probably because they aren't. America is paying for Aide to these countries while we bomb them and massacre innocent civilians, who many of them, are just protecting their country.

So, you have a better picture than those who were there, and experienced it? I don't think so.. I think many of you Liberals, are so hard headed that you will refute the truth when it's place right in front of your face. You're all attacking me, and acting like I'm an "conspiracy theorist," but if you actually study up on the NDAA, HR347, CISPA and, the FAA reauthorization act, you'd see that, I have legitimate concerns, and the government (Including the current administration,) should be held accountable, and forced to tell the American people why they feel as though they don't need to follow the constitution.

I was trying to respond to everyone at once. It's a shame Liberals who hated Bush, can't see through Obama. You got the same War Mongering activities, with a new black face, and Liberals just stfu.

I said "In their own respective countries. Obama is part of the UN, but through US law, he's taking away our constitution. We don't even really follow international human Rights laws. America tourchers "terror suspects" and everything. I also think the American people should be weary on what the US government considers "suspected terrorist." If people can be locked up indefinitely without trial.

The part which is wrong, you can't possibly understand; You're not American. However, there are certain Rights and Liberties which, true patriots hold close to their heart. Among these are, the freedom of speech, which was literally adopted because our protest of over-taxation to great Brittan is what inadvertently started The Revolutionary War. We recognized the Right for people to be safe from unreasonable searches, because Great Brittan forced Americans to have every paper in their home stamped with an Image of the King, and they would kick in our doors to make sure that we wre paying tribute to his majesty. American's didn't like that, We wanted a much smaller government that couldn't do that. It would be a crying SHAME to let these freedoms go. Especially for a tyrannical government which spies on virtually every aspect of our lives, and listens to every word we say. They search us for "drugs," over-tax and over regulate us and, fabricate reasons to go to war to benefit the Military-industrial complex. Democrats are just as guilty as Republicans, and Obama is a tool of the Banksters.

 

Both are working together - killing outsiders and their own people and will continue once we are gone. I do wonder what's the point sometimes.

I don't think you quite get what the Taliban are about : /

What do you think the government should be doing that it isn't?

Experienced what exactly?
Just being there doesn't necessarily give them an instant appreciation of the politics (etc) that have been going on in the last near decade.
In this case, imho, yes.
I would suggest they just share your opinion (which is convenient isn't it).
To be fair, I'm not 100% sure what they would mean when they say: 'the Iraq war, is only about oil.' - what do they mean exactly?
I was imaging them believing it was ownership of the wells, perhaps control.
I don't know.
It wouldn't be that Saddam was going to flood the market with his oil would it?
Now where have I heard that one before?

I have. Personally, I'm not attacking you - I'm disagreeing with you.

ftr, I didn't hate Bush.

Ok. Your entire sentence(s) suggested the UN was removing rights from countries - I just didn't quote you very well. What I said amounts to the same thing. The only thing you seem to go on about is: NDAA, HR347, CISPA and, the FAA reauthorization act. So you still have not mentioned the human rights the UN has removed from other countries, imho. If you have (like you say you have) I have not read it..

A little tenuous, imho. Nothing to do with the UN then?

You are too paranoid. Whenever I ask for some detail/evidence you just throw 'NDAA, HR347, CISPA and, the FAA reauthorization act' into the ring.

 

Generally, I don't think any countries government should allow for the slaughter of it's own people. They should be loyal to the people, not some foreign country, who are bribing them to recede into their holes.

Well, America already has oil routes all throughout the Middle East. But when I mention the "Military Industrial Complex," it includes the Oil industry, ARMS dealers and, many more industries which pull major profits due to war.

Actually, Dr. Ron Paul, (Who best represents my political ideals,) received more money from the active Military, than ALL the other candidates combined. I suppose one could call it "convenient," however, I like to think that Soldiers take their Oath to the Constitution seriously. Belief in the Constitution is a good reason to be a Libertarian, because other politicians don't typically follow it at all.

Well honestly, idk either. They didn't really go into any detail. But Bush was in fact an Oilman, who was making billions of dollars from the Bin Ladens. Let's not forget either, that war in the Middle east causes Oil prices to go up, (mostly due to mere speculation.) Unfortunately, the Military Industrial Complex, are the same people who want to regulate the resources of the world. Mostly elite companies who benefit from a fake economy. But even when you mentioned them "ending starvation." Well, we're essentially the reason the world in starving. nearly 70% of Africas farm land is owned by united fruit corporation, then we have all these commercials to make you feel bad for starving Africans! Just give them their damn land back!!!

Obama is the secretary of defense for the UN, that is some type of involvement, like it or not.

I am NOT "too paranoid." The NDAA not only legalized war propaganda and lies, it also allows for the indefinite detention of American citizens without trial, and the Obama administration refused to tell the judge if they were already using that provision.

We have always found Justice through the courts when it comes to terror suspects, there was no reason to stop that now. Plus, it violates numerous amendments of the constitution.

The Patriot Act, CISPA and, the FAA reauthorization act, violate the 4th amendment which states;

HR347 says you can't be disruptive anywhere that secret service are present, even if you don't know they're there!! This is first of all, way too broad. That means Romney, Santorum and, Obama are all safe from your ridicule. The days where you can yell "War Monger!" at a politician is over. The freedom of speech is so important to preserve, and this law flies in the face of everything America is supposed to stand for!!

So, these shouldn't be taken lightly. You are somewhat conditioned by the government. You think, since it's a long line of abuses, that these aren't worse than earlier laws. But it's simply too much power, and for people like me who believe in freedom for the individual and NOT the government, this should be the line in the sand for anyone.

 

Those things are QUITE SERIOUS odon!!

 

What else can those afghans do to make money? not like there is a lot of work in the middle east. Plus, if it wasn't for those poppy plants, we wouldn't have a lot of pain medicine for patients coming out of surgery or a small dosage for other things

 

Fair enough - I agree.

(I only asked why being in theatre made you more knowlegable about the reasons for the war)

How was he making billions from the Bin Ladens? Are all the Bin Ladens international terrorists?
As far as I am aware he was a terrible 'oilman', and most - if not all - his oil interests were sold by the mid 90s.
But I'd be interested to know when and how he was making billions of dollars from the Bin Ladens in 2000 - onwards.
And what that has to do with the Iraq and Afghan war.

Yes, they do spike but only for a brief period. They do so after natural disasters too. So what relevance does it have?

Really?

Up to 90% of sub-Saharan Africa's land area is currently untitled.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-de...rs/2012/mar/02/african-governments-land-deals

What? No he isn't. The UN doesn't have a 'secretary of defense'.
Do you agree with Jeff Sessions?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVxaJ9o3-Q4"]Secretary of Defense admits NATO and UN have supreme power of our military not Congress - YouTube

Was it you who said that you could no longer protest outside the Whitehouse?
If so, I remember posting this link - I think:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/restricted.asp
...and numerous e.g's of people doing just that.
It was once not illegal to trespass on the Whitehouse lawn - now it is.

Ok, I think you don't match reality with the interpretations you make regarding the various federal laws/bills you mention.
If HR347 prevents you protesting - then highlight an e.g rather that just your interpretation.
You don't have to take them lightly, just don't bend reality to fit with your interpretation - which I think you do too often.

"The days where you can yell "War Monger!" at a politician is over. "

So nobody can stand at the White house gates and shout that or shout out at say the DNC etc?
And this is totally new and unprecedented?
I think you can still do both - but please do find an e.g (any protest) of somebody doing so recently and being arrested under HR347.
As far as I am aware it is about trespass not protest.

Could you give an e.g of a scenario where that may occur.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by: "legalized war propaganda and lies".

 

I did not say they were not. I was asking for evidence.