Whatever happened to all the heroes?

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  1. Joshua Tree

    Joshua Tree Remain In Light

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    Is there anyone in public life who you look up to these days? I can't see many around. Trump and Johnson are a prize pair, the multi-billionaires are in it for themselves. I admire Sanders, and Chomsky speaks a lot of sense. After that I'm starting to run dry.
     
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  2. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Andrew Cuomo for one.
     
  3. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Since when has a political figure ever been a hero?

    A hero kills people, people that wish his harm. A hero is generally born from a childhood trauma or a disaster that must be avenged.
     
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    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Andrew Tate
    Candace Owens
    Julian Assange
     
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  5. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member HipForums Supporter

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    No, but honestly, I've found television to be a surrogate for that. Shows like "Madam Secretary" and "Designated Survivor" or "NCIS" and others have elements of truth and values and leadership and responsibility; qualities that I like and have strived to embody as well as looked up to. In all seriousness, that is how I remind myself what is good, worth living for, and hopefully what this country stands for.
     
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  6. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    All the heroes were called madmen... The madmen became the heroes.
     
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  7. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    what the story books don't tell you is the price of being a hero is one kind of martyrdom or another.
    hero's forsake their own comfort and popularity for what they believe to be the common good.
    real hero's are too humble to be noticed.

    it isn't a way to get elected or sell books. it can happen, but its not too likely.
    its not that the universe discriminates against them.

    now the thing is, its by the very act of going unnoticed, that they have their positive effect in this world.
     
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    FritzDaKatx2 Vinegar Taster

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    Sorry, can't stop myself

     
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  9. That hair reminds me of Miracle Max from Princess Bride

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  10. snowtiggernd

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    I was thinking it too
     
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  11. YouFreeMe

    YouFreeMe Visitor

    To me, a hero helps people selflessly. To me, you are describing a traditional "Super hero", like a fictional one. Like, would you consider a firefighter who did not have childhood trauma, but who rescued like 40 kids from a burning building, at his own risk, a hero?
     
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  12. Dax

    Dax Members

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    No need to look further than here, US Marine Corps!!


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  13. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    We had what I considered to be some heroes in the 60s, but the right wingers killed em' off.
     
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  14. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Not necessarily a super hero. King Arthur, Richard Lionheart, Robin Hood, Beowulf etc. are all classic hero's for standing up against a common enemy. This is what hero's are to me, since a child in a book titled Hero's. :) They didn't have super powers or anything like that so they do not linger in the catagory of super hero at all. I class these as historical figures even if mythical. I class a fire fighter as somebody that's doing their job, unless volunteer.
     
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    mallyboppa Senior Member

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    Love that Film mate !
     
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  17. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    I think although servicemen and medic workers are and should be well respected, I can't really put them in the "hero" class IMO because they've been trained to do that job. They wanted to do it, they've been selected, trained, qualified and finally get paid to provide the community that service. That's why I said "unless volunteer" as they obviously aren't as well equipped or trained but ready to put their life on the line without pay.

    But when I hear the word "hero" the next word that follows in my mind is "legend" hero's and legends, which is why I connect them to the idols I do. :) Difference makers in a world that struggled to accept them.
     
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  18. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I agree that most military people aren't heroes.
    But here's one:
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    He received every combat award the U.S. Army had to offer in WWII as well as awards from France and Belgium.
    In addition to many previous medals for valor he received the Medal of Honor for single handily holding off an entire company of German soldiers for an hour while standing atop a burning tank destroyer while wounded, killing or wounding fifty Germans in the process. He only retreated when he ran out of ammunition.
    He was wounded three times, earned 37 U.S. medals and is credited with killing 241 Germans.

    Then he went on to be a movie and TV star.
     
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    Hogan's Heroes Corporal Louis LeBeau is 94, there are only two surviving members of Hogans Heroes.
    Kenneth Washington being the other..
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  20. I am in accordance with Irminsul

    When heroism comes to mind it's followed after by Wiglaf at Beowulf's side to aid him in his fight with the Worm.

    the Persian wars with Greece esp. Thermopylae

    It is exceeding wonder how a confederacy of small city-states could drive back the largest empire in the world
    It wasn't their numbers or their resources
    It was the Greeks spirit that pulled them through
    It was their desire for independence
    For freedom
    And in this is to be found the Spirit of all heroism


    (although the very spirit of that Freedom later had dimished)
     

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