Just wondering, my Mom told me stories about how my Uncle was a very evil and violent person. Said he would always hit and beat my Aunt and even threatened her while she was carrying his child? He held a knife at her stomach and said he would cut the baby out or something along those lines?? Really strange weird stories!! If you were “Judging” this story, or judging domestic violence in general? How would you punish a person guilty of mistreating or beating their spouse? Would you like make the person serve jail time? Or make them pay fines to the State? Or would you do something else to punish the guilty person?
Today, there is a high awareness of domestic violence (exclusively of women as victims of it). But I think that issue is not something new. I remember from my childhood my neighbor next door making big fusses when he arrived drunk and hit everyone even the dog. Also the neighbor of the backside proceeding in a similar way. Only at that time we took it as a problem of their own family and nobody interfered. Today, however, most people no longer tolerate it.
You can’t call a person like this a man, it’s not a man, it’s a two year old having a tantrum in a grown man’s body. A little child doesn’t know how to control their emotions and these cowards need to grow up.i would say to any woman experiencing this right now, take your children and go. Break the cycle, children learn from us how a relationship should be, if you don’t break the cycle your children will except this as normal, your daughters will get beaten and your sons will do the beating, save them now. As for punishment, they should have a program where they are locked away and taught what a real husband and father is, what it means to be a man. If you can’t handle the responsibility of that, then don’t get married
Realistically, her family should take her in and call the cops. Divorce the fucked up asshole. Have her family tell him if he ever goes near her again they'll shoot him.
One big problem is that when and if these cases come to court the punishment very rarely fits the crime. Many are just given their country's version of a restraining order which serves no purpose whatsoever!!!!!
Another problem with this sort of incident is that its difficult to prove in many cases . As there are rarely witnesses ,its then down to a case of his word against her word . I have to say at this point its not always the guy who is perpetrator either. However a good lawyer will often suffice to get the offender cleared of any charges due to lack of evidence .
Spousal abuse is abuse whoever is responsible, man, woman, same sex partner, but it is predominantly a male against female crime unfortunately.
Difficult problem . Often, a restraining order just pisses the perpetrator off even more. I agree with what Nooka said. A plan needs to be put in place before a woman ( and children, if some are involved) to leave safely and have a safe place to be and not be found. I've too often read about women putting up with being beaten, tortured , restricted from being independent persons and when finally doing something about the mistreatment and maybe shooting the fucker---she then is put in jail for murder!! I frankly don't get why people--especially men--would want or be compelled --to harm women in these ways.
I am not concerned with punishment, and I had a father like that that fucked me up for life probably. But ultimately people are what they are as a result of a series of events mostly outside their control. A combination of genetic predispositions and circumstance, most important ones being in early childhood with little personal agency. So I see it in the same way I would a bad storm or something. It is a chain of events that create an asshole, ultimately with very limited inputs of really freewill choices at any part of that chain. What we must focus on is protecting people from them, not on blame and punishment. If protecting requires killing the guy than kill the guy, but torturing him back will do nothing. It will not repair anything they have done and will not repair them either.
I needed to read bits of that a few times. Yes, often, abusers were themselves abused as children. However, once they become adult, they should behave like an adult. They know the abuse was wrong so there's no excuse for them to do it. Pre-disposion doesn't mean permission. Punishment should follow alongside rehabilitation but, imv, if the perpetrator is still a threat to others, locking them up is the only way to protect others from that threat.
I am not referring just to that. No better why they are what they are, it might be just genetics, it might be over pampering in childhood or too many concussions in sport. My perception of free will is in it being too limited to base ethical and legal systems on the idea of responsibility and punishment. If roughly speaking 50% of our behaviour is genetics (depends on the specific behavioural element, abut it is about there), of the rest the biggest factor is conditioning in early childhood, specially the first few years, and afterwards all the rest we have no control off - how much room is there for willing choices and therefore responsibility? Seems to me that we overemphasise free will as it fulfil some function or other, believing in it is probably useful, but it does not seem to fit what we know about human behaviour from research. Yes, protecting might require locking them up. It might require killing them. I don't have a problem with that, just find the punishment angle irrelevant.