What Will You Do When The System Collapses?

oh you boys have reminded me of some things to make sure I get. Thanks....spices is very important.

 

I'll keep on keepin' on in my cob home in the forest.

 

We turned the our large tobacco humidor (48 qt cooler) in to a rice storage, it fits 20lb bags sideways good.

If you want the humidity beads that were in it you can have them they are less then a year old about 1 lb of them. We won’t be using them we have a small tobacco box and don’t need a big tobacco storage anymore we just have a cigar once in a while, I hate having stuff around that isn’t being used.

But if you want them yours free.

 

zihger. Are you freezing the rice and flour before you store them away long term?
If not i would suggest it . Just throw the entire bag into a freezer for 48-72 hours then take them out for a week - ten days and throw back into the freezer for another 48 hours. It will kill off any bugs n critters in flours rice, pasta etc making the storage time much longer. If you don do this, most likely you will regret it, not that they really hurt you once cooked its just gross to open your stuff and see it full of bugs.

 

Thanks for the tip on the freezing. Bay leaves are a good way to keep bugs out of your food stash.

 

bay leaves would be a good way to keep me outta my food stash..lol
i dont think they would have any effect on those that hatched off there though. i mean,where they going to go?

generally infestations occur from bugs hatching off from eggs that were there before the product was packaged.. sad but true.

thats why freezing is so important..

 

Yeah good point about bugs and dry storage probably 1 out of 5 or 10 bags of rice we get usually has some amount of bugs.

We just have a small freezer so we are going to wait until about Dec and put stuff out on the porch for a 24-48 hrs so it gets good and frozen and hopefully destroys any eggs that might be in stuff.

We diversify also and get different brands so if one is bad not our whole stash is bad and It's nice to have a selection because dry goods get boring really fast..:-/

 

Good to know. This was one of our concerns and we thought perhaps an airtight container. But from what you are saying....its still necessary to freeze?! I would never have thunk it

 

Gotta watch out for mice also nasty filthy creatures.

 

. Yes the freezing is fairly necessary unless of course you just want that free protein
airtight is important after you have done the freezing thing. On some of our stuff that we simply dont have containers for. Wrap the original bag in a couple two or three grocery sacks and tie as good as you can then put it in whatever you are storing it in

we use those cheap large size totes to store many of our goods once they are processed for long term storage. Dollar general sells good sized ones here for 5 bux. When you go to seal it up for good run a bead of caulk along the edge. Works pretty well, although they do get pretty darn heavy in hurry so be ware. If you re planning on real long term storage the O2 absorbers should be used too , we dont tend to use them but we try n rotate stock with in a couple years time.. Of course this may not be any problem coming up here real soon

 

I think we are headed for an evolutionary leap. The socioeconomic collapse should provide the necessary environmental pressure to select the organisms most fit for survival. What's so revolutionary about this coming stage is that genetic evolution (sex) is not fast enough to handle the tidal wave of novelty which is rapidly approaching. The only container I see capable of catching it all is memetic evolution (consciousness). And instead of the individual organisms evolving, I think a higher level of organisms will be born out of the harmonization of the survivors. Think about evolutionary history, after the separation of the big bang subatomic particles combined to for atoms, atoms combined to form molecules, molecules to amino acids to proteins to single cell organisms to multi cell organisms to plants and animals and you and me. At steps all along the way, after a stage has complexified to saturation, its individual components combine and harmonize to form a higher level of physical manifestation. A huge catastrophe may seem terrible and scary but it looks like it's necessary to drive the development of the universe in a stable direction. If this is the case I'm not really sure what the best preparation is, but when I look at the lives of the most conscious people in history, preventing physical death seems to be a relatively low priority.

 

good be sure and not focus on preventing your physical death,just dont come here with your hand out because you didnt..

 

my grandpa owns a farm...ill live in a tent on it

 

I think we are going to be lucky in the US and UK and pretty much every other country will also be fine. Apart from that is, Iceland. So, all that food you guys are storing. send over to them. They'll need it more than you ever will.

 

In regards to your sig pic, Jesus DID.

 

Live, the system works as perfect as a dream.

 

:cheers2:arty::sifone:

 

oh come on now a country with far more wealth per capita than the united states or the UK needs our aid? surely not..

as a matter of fact,i believe they are of your mindset..

"I do have faith in the Government that they will sort it out, but we do want clear answers on Monday."

so no i think ill keep on prepping..you can say it cant happen here all you like but the facts are the facts.
iceland,the 5th wealthiest country in the world per capita is the first to go under,what makes you think we will fair better? (that was a rhetorical question)

 

Seems so:

Last March, the blog noted an excellent article on Iceland by Gillian Tett of the Financial Times. She argued that Iceland was 'the first country run like a hedge fund'. And she worried that its banks might prove not 'too big to fail', but 'too big to rescue'? Now, it looks as though we are close to finding out the answer.
In 2007, according to Bloomberg, the assets belonging to Iceland's 3 biggest banks were 9 times the country's GDP. But on Monday, the government had to bail out the 3rd largest bank, Glitnir, to save it from bankruptcy. And now the Wall Street Journal reports growing doubt about the government's ability to rescue any other large banks.
After months of denial, Iceland's government has finally begun to face facts. On Thursday, the Prime Minister, Geir Haarde, warned that 'Government, companies, households and people have seldom faced such great difficulties'. But it may already be too late, as there are suggestions that the country will soon require a rescue package from the International Monetary Fund.

http://www.icis.com/blogs/chemicals-and-the-economy/2008/10/iceland-on-the-brink.html

Iceland is on the brink of collapse. Inflation and interest rates are raging upwards. The krona, Iceland's currency, is in freefall and is rated just above those of Zimbabwe and Turkmenistan. One of the country's three independent banks has been nationalised, another is asking customers for money, and the discredited government and officials from the central bank have been huddled behind closed doors for three days with still no sign of a plan. International banks won't send any more money and supplies of foreign currency are running out.
People talk about whether a new emergency unity government is needed and if the EU would fast-track the country to membership. On Friday the queues at the banks were huge, as people moved savings into the most secure accounts. Yesterday people were buying up supplies of olive oil and pasta after a supermarket spokesman announced on Friday night that they had no means of paying the foreign currency advances needed to import more foodstuffs.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/05/iceland.creditcrunch



Just a prediction, along with the rest in this thread.

I'm still waiting for the Internet to go down...lol

 

I really don't think this is something we need to worry about.