What psychedelic drug do I try first?

I'd recommend the sacred mushroom for ones first psychedelic awakening. Come into the trip calm and relaxed, with good friends, and open your heart to the mushroom spirit.
LSD may be a bit much for ones first trip. But i did LSD on my first psychedelic adventure and had an amazing time. Just go with the flooow

 

i disagree with everyone saying that acid might be too intense for a first timer. i bet at least half of them have never done LSD. shrooms can be too intense for a first timer! my most difficult trips have been on mushrooms. i'm a seasoned tripper, and to this day, i'm scared of shrooms

not to say that you'll have a bad time...my first trip was on shrooms and i loved it. but i've given a few people LSD for their first trip and they loved it too. just take a lowish dose, and prepare your mind and your surroundings - (mind)set and setting.

my answer to your question would be LSD (a hit or two) or mushrooms (1.7-3.5 grams)

lsd is not scarier or more intense than mushrooms. they can both be crazy and scary, and both are beautiful and deep. take your pick. i like LSD

have you ever taken a psychedelic? like LSD or shrooms?

 

Yessir. Cid and 2c-e so far (again in various combos).

Was not meaning to say it is an analogous experience to 'cid (in many ways it is not), but certain aspects and commonalities are there. They are both (in very different ways and at very different levels) mind-opening experiences. That is all I was trying to say. I guess I would say that my personal story is that: I feel that experimenting with combos of "basic" drugs (like those four) helped me understand and process what I encountered when I finally did "real" drugs (i.e. LSD). It was just a matter of encountering a somewhat-related headspace.

That said, NOT counting weed, my first psych was acid and it was a great entree. I will add my voice to those who are saying that acid is a fine introduction, not too scary.

 

you don't need to smoke weed to test the "psychedelic waters"

you certainly don't need to smoke weed, get drunk and hit a cigarette either. there is nothing about that experience that would help one process the effects of LSD.

running does not prepare you for riding a bike

 

As I think I said elsewhere, your experience is undoubtedly greater than mine. I will say a few words to clarify what I meant, though:
Perhaps it was ill-advised to phrase my combo as a "recommendation." Instead I will say that it was helpful to *me*. I share only on the off-chance it might be helpful to someone else as well, and here is my reasoning on that:
As for the running/riding a bike scenario I don't agree with that analogy on many levels: for one thing, the skills acquired when one learns to run (balance, timing, kinesthetic awareness, etc) are ABSOLUTELY helpful when one learns to ride a bike. By the same token, although the "altered" state of psychedelics and other "altered" states can be very different, some of the basic underlying psychology (less judgment, lowered inhibitions, lowered personality-constructs) can be analogous. I guess in my experience the commonalities have been as meaningful as the differences.
I mentioned earlier that drunkenness may have been the forerunner of the entheogenic experience; I will also remind folks that writers in the brand-new world of psychedelic experimentation back in the 50s classed Cannabis with the Psychedelics. Modern neurochemistry has told us how the two are different, but reading those early writers can also remind us what they have in common. Alan Watts (whom NOBODY could accuse of "not knowing his way around psychedelics") said cannabis was his *favorite* psychedelic!! (and let's remember that tobacco too has been considered a peace-giving, mind-altering sacrament by some North American native cultures). Just food for thought...

 

^^alcohol is not a psychedelic dude. and i'd bet that people were eating psychedelic mushrooms and cacti before they were getting drunk.

riding a bike first could easily teach you the balance, etc. that would be helpful in running. so the order is arbitrary. just because most people happen to run (get drunk) before they ride a bike (take LSD), doesn't mean that it has to go that way, or that one really prepares you WELL for the other.

trust me, my experience is greater than yours

 

I'm of this school as well. My first was LSD and it changed my life. Shrooms are just as amazing yet in different ways. The biggest component to suggesting L over shrooms for a first time is the variability of mushrooms.
If someone sharing Lucy with another for their first time has experience with the particular tabs, gauges the intensity of said dose while taking into consideration the person, it can be the most amazing, magical thing.

 

honestly might be a dick for suggesting this BUT: why not try 3/4 to a whole bottle of robotussin. that's what most kids start out taking. my first was acid, its fun just make sure you trip w/ trusted friends and someone that you trust that's done it b4. asshole ppl will fuck w/ your head while you are tripping.

oh and can i ask you all a stupid question? is lucy what kids are callin acid these days? we used to call them doses

 

I think that raga makes a valid point here pork. The basis of starting with weed, and then moving to something that might bring you a little further from normal consciousness will allow you to be secure with the knowledge that you can be ok if you're not sober, and it can help to solidify the knowledge that every drug experience comes to an end, which is something that you need to be familiar with in case a trip goes wrong. Not to say that this will adequately prepare anyone for an acid trip, but if you smoke a reasonable amount of weed and find that you cannot handle yourself, then you might want to give yourself some time to get used to that level of a psychedelic experience before you move on to acid. I'll elaborate on this later because im on my phone right now and my class is starting.

 

Videoslave, I'd like to try some Psilocybin Chemistry on some shrooms but a black guy like me just doesn't have that kinda of luck knowing a guy like you.
Lucky2

 

The statement "alcohol is not a psychedelic dude" is very dismissive and is, in fact, a straw-man argument. I have not claimed that alcohol is a psychedelic, but of course by characterizing my statements that way, they become very easy to reject. In other words, you have not really responded to the point (which was much more subtle than "alcohol=psychedelics") I was really trying to make.

I have tried to find the essay in which someone was discussing the history of mind-opening as a mystic/spiritual practice (roughly, en-theo-genics), and noted that alcohol was one of the early ways of opening up. I have not been successful in finding the essay or I would link it here.

In any case, I did not intend to imply that they are the same. Sorry if it came off that way.

 

sorry i came off harsh. i DO see your point, that using alcohol and weed by themselves and in combination can alter your perception of reality, and therefore "prepare" you for taking LSD. but i respectfully disagree.

i just don't think it's a good measure of whether or not you can handle LSD. for a reasonably mature person (i'm not talking about 14 year olds that have two hits of weed and use it as an excuse to act like an idiot), that doesn't enjoy the effects of cannabis, that doesn't mean they won't enjoy the effects of LSD. weed is 1000X more paranoia inducing than LSD is for me. it's a cloudy, scrambled, sort of chaotic high. LSD is crystal clear and clean, i can feel more at peace when on a decent dose of L, than i am after just one bong rip.

i guess it might be a little crazy if someone took LSD for their first drug ever. most people DO get drunk or high or something first, so in a way, YES, they get prepared for altered states. but i dont' think it really prepares you for it.

 

There's nothing that can really prepare you for an acid trip. I don't think there's any particular order that someone should be introduced to certain drugs in, and I wouldn't necessarily say that smoking weed is a necessary precursor to taking acid, but I do see the point that raga is trying to make, and I think it's a good one. Certainly it would vary wildly from person to person, but I feel like being comfortable with doing drugs in general should give you a certain level of confidence in your ability to handle yourself. That coupled with extensive research into the effects of acid and an open mind would likely help to avoid a freak out or some such bad experience.

 

i understand the point as well, it's just not really correct. being able to control yourself under the influence of alcohol (maybe while numbing away some of your problems) has nothing to do with being able to handle yourself on LSD, where all of your flaws may be thrown in your face. just as an example

 

Hey I think I have found the essay I was referencing, or one of them. It's an David Richards lecture and you can find it here: http://www.druglibrary.org/special/richards/dajr4.htm

He doesn't exactly group alcohol with the entheogen, but notice the way he treats alcohol throughout the first section.

...Still looking for the other essay where the writer talks about how alcohol inspires the "yes instinct" in man. It's even more illuminating than this essay about what I'm trying to say.

 

I found weed a good stepping stone to psychedelics, I even consider weed psychedelic lite. I found ego softening, time dialation, enhanced sensory perceptions, and deep contemplation in my initial highs, all of the core elements I associate with a psychedelic trip and initially it was presented in a more anxiolytic manner than what I find from heavier psychedelics like LSD. So from a practical standpoint I see Raga has a point but I don't really see alcohol, caffiene or tobacco in that same light though.

But the LSD trip has a level of intensity and depth in its effects, that I believe no amount of weed smoked can truly prepare someone for, so it need not be the case that someone smoke weed before experiencing LSD, so I side with Porkstock on a philisophical standpoint.

 

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