what political ideology are you?

So in effect the businesses have formed a sort of 'union'? The workers could do the same. You could view it all as a battle if you like. Corporations want what's good for them, you want what's good for you. So, go out and make it better for yourself.
He didn't work so hard, you assume. That doesn't make it true. And it would seem the money he spends on coke is likely his own, whereas the salaries are paid by the company... It's not exactly up to him, and he must keep the business profitable.

 

~Democratic Socialist~ You envision a peaceful and democratic society in which big business is justly and economically controlled by the people it effects. You also believe in social services, such as quality education, and universal health care.

 

Seems so irrational to me soulless... let's agree to disagree, because we know debating is getting us no where... we've been doing this for a while... lets take a break... im sure we'll debate again some day.

Toodles.

Until than
The people have spoken!

 

You can come damn near having complete control of whether or not you have a kid, and there is always adoption too, is it not creul to raise a kid, when you cannot even support yourself? That's not at all fair to the kid.
You my not be able to choose whether or not to be in debt, but there are thing you can do to avoid it, and ways to keep it under control, and get out of it.
By your thinking, the people are already in debt, so they might as well take the chance no? The result of doing nothing is, well, nothing.

 

Alright, this is becoming boring.

 

Long live the People's Revolution eh comrades?

 

damn near close, but you still cant control it... and just because you ar epoor doesnt mean you should be forced to put your baby into an adoption facility... the thought of someone thinking that scares me.

That would be a nightmare.

You are poor - so you cant have a kid.
Children are only for the rich!

 

k im done

HORRAY!!! lmao.

 

That is not what I said.
So would you think it fair to bring a child into the world knowing full well you can't support it?
Because of your actions, someone enters the world with little chance to succeed. How cruel.

 

Not everyone fully understands the cost of having a child right away... they think they can have the kid -- but once they realize the cost of it, they realize they cant... Cant have an abortion now, the childs outta the womb...

STOP
NO
MORE
OH MY GOD!
* head explodes*

 

It is their own fault, perhaps they should work on curing their idiocy?

 

I Like Potatos!

 

i enjoy...stuff

 

Potatoes are good... You fucking commie. (j/k (not about the potatoes(potatoes rock)))

 

potatoes make vodka...commies like vodka...and shareing...shareing like a soc

 

you can make vodka out of other things than potatoes... but i dont like vodka much... its the russians who like vodka... im no russian, im german... i like beer and sausage.

 

ahaha, mui likes sausage...man im childish

im not russian either, im ukrainian, and a bit sweedish

 

http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_lavello_032503_socialism.html

Socialism: The Common Ground of Slaves and Tyrants

By Randy Lavello

The concept of socialism, not new to mankind when first written by Karl Marx, is a beautiful ideal. The simplistic, tribal peoples who formerly populated the earth used socialism, often successfully to advance the welfare of their tribes. Where everyone in the tribe was interrelated and knew one another intimately, these peoples flourished under some of the basic principles of socialism. That said, it is recklessly naïve to believe that this system would be beneficial to mankind if implemented on a global scale.

The basic notions of socialism appeal the slave mentality; those lacking political power who wish to implement this form of society do not want to be responsible for themselves. This system appeals to childishness and an inability to take control of one’s life, therefore seeking a ‘father figure’ (Big Brother?) to solve all life’s problems. Socialism itself presupposes the existence of a benevolent central person or committee which has the answer to the very question of life; this may have been the case with certain chiefs, of certain tribes, deep in the world’s past... but it cannot function on a global scale for different people with various customs. Those who believe mortal men, given omnipotent power could guide every aspect of a person’s life are asking to wear shackles. Socialism appeals to the feelings of dependence, self-doubt, and submission.

Wanna-be-tyrants who already possess political power would dream of commanding a huge socialist beaurocracy and wish for subjects to request direction in every aspect of life. Therefore, by its very definition, socialism attracts into leadership those who lust for power. It asks for everyone to be equal, rather than ask the more realistic question, for everyone to be treated equally.

Why is this pertinent? Take into account this quote: ‘Our task of creating a Socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.’ - Sara Brady, 1994. How does our government reward such a treasonous statement? They pass laws restricting firearms, and name the bill in her honor. What lesson can we learn from this? The obvious lesson learned is: our government officials reward treason… But I refer to a more important lesson: if we the American People are disarmed, forces of world socialism will devour us.

There are certainly forces hard at work to destroy our way of life and install a World Socialist Government. But don’t take my word for it, listen to former National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski: ‘the technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values.’ Hmm… a ‘controlled society’ ruled by ‘an elite…’ it sounds like a communist dictatorship to me. If this nation were to be changed from a Free Republic to a ‘Socialist America,’ it couldn’t happen overnight. This feat would take years of planning. Let’s listen to what Rowan Gaither, Fromer-President of the tax-free Ford Foundation had to say in 1954 about his operations: ‘We operate here under directives which emulate from the White House… The substance of the directives under which we operate is that we shall use our grant making power to alter life in the United States so that we can comfortably be merged with the Soviet Union.’ The alteration of life in the U.S., which would suit a merger with Communist Russia, would be the erosion of freedoms and democracy, and this was in the works more than forty years ago.

How could this be? If this were the case, if America were being undermined in order to be transformed into a socialist state and merged with a world government body, there would have been arrests, or we would have heard about it, right? Wrong! What does David Rockefeller, one of the wealthiest men on the planet, and an American, have to say: ‘We are grateful to the Washington Post, New York Times, Time Magazine, and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a World Government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries’ – 1991. This clearly states a ‘World Government’ led by an ‘intellectual elite and world bankers.’ The wealthiest, greediest, most out-of-touch people on earth, world bankers are to be our undisputed leaders under the counsel of the ‘intellectual elite.’ We cannot forget that David Rockefeller founded the Trilateral Commission, an organization mandated to destroy national sovereignty and support the creation of a World Government which, along with it’s British sister group- The Council on Foreign Relations, includes more than half the members of our executive branch over the past twenty-five years.

One can only guess at the unknown misdeeds done by these wanna-be-kings and their minions. But, how did it come to this? They were executing the Hegelian Dialect, or controlling both sides of the argument to achieve a preordained goal. For nearly a hundred years, the Democrats, through ‘pump-priming,’ created a larger government grown more powerful by taxation and the citizenry’s dependence upon it. The Republicans, through the ‘Trickle-Down Theory’ nurtured a larger, more formidable, devouring corporate entity. Both served the interests of the international bankers, while Americans argued over whom was correct… Democrats or Republicans. Here we are in the twenty-first century, and we have a giant, corrupt, corporate-government monster, where government serves business, and business buys government; we are on the bottom, being crushed, as all the freedoms our veterans fought for are being undermined in the name of more power, World Government and wealthier international corporations.

It’s the year 2003, and the FBI has determined that homeschoolers, Christians, and those who reference the Constitution are to be considered possible terrorists! They’ve already suggested that ‘2+2=5.’ When I add up the facts, I come to the conclusion that our nation has been hijacked by criminal filth, but the media still denies it. Those who believe this corporately owned media do believe that ‘2+2=5.’ There are a few other things the sheep will have to learn: WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, and IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH. This proud, once-free nation is becoming Oceania… our lives are becoming a book: 1984.

These dark forces are trying to turn us into a socialist nation, but do not be deceived, Socialism is just an ideal - it does not work on the grand scale. Here’s a notion, which we could support: the implementation of a government system held in place by a system of checks and balances which keeps tyrants at bay. Then we could guarantee the inherent rights of men, which are to be protected by the government as the number one priority and, through free-elections, (no tampering as was obviously the case in Florida 2000) place those into power whom we deem fit. Furthermore, we could give this governing body the power to print our own currency, preventing corrupt, greedy banking institutions from undermining the society. Then, we could remove the hand of business from our media, protect and nurture the truth and keep ourselves informed in order to fight corruption in every form. Does any of this sound familiar? It sure sounded nice to our Founding Fathers who risked their lives in the name of these notions.

Make no mistake, a Constitutional Republic and a Socialist Government are the opposite of one another- the former places responsibility on oneself to live freely and protect freedom for all, the latter places zero responsibility on the self and hands total control to someone else. Which sounds best to you? Which do you think would be preferable to a wealthy and powerful ‘elite?’ These richest-of-men have been implementing the takeover for a long time, but they cannot manipulate us the whole way… they will have to use force eventually. Which side will you chose to defend - freedom or slavery?

 

I don't think that's right.

very stereotypical

which is what? I don't know either, really.

In my eyes that makes his reputation better. I've been hearing so many things lately that rattle my brain. What the hell is going on here?!

How do you know that this would happen?

or that everyone is their own leader?

But what would you say, does?

That reminds me of those primitive villages in other countries that I love to watch on the discovery channel sometimes. Isn't that a good example of working communism? THERE'S THE PROOF

That's true, but I don't think that's a "problem". Everything you do has to be your own choice for it to work. I think maybe the only way for national communism to come about would be from the growth and coming together of communes that already exist. Honestly, though, I don't think that is going to happen. I think what's going to happen is that some kind of huge disaster is going to destroy a big chunk of our population and then those that are left will have no other choice but to commune. Hopefully those people will have some kind of previous knowledge/experience about communism.

Tell me about it, please.

Why do we need that proof? I really don't think it can work on a large scale. Maybe it can, though. I guess we'll never know until we try it, right?

It's just as advantageous (is that a word? ;P) as anything else is.

I definitely don't.

Not unless they are wise.

That's the best damned idea ever!

What the fuck?! How has it been working "alright"? People are crazier and sicker than ever before and I think that says a lot about how everything is collectively working here in America.

My ex-boyfriend lived in Japan for a year and he says depression plagues the place. He brought home with him his own depression and a bad drinking problem.

What's wrong with having no economy?

I believe in the goodness of people. I also know that they can be weak.

DAMN this post is finally over!

 

Damn that's lenghty.

First, it was not meant completely seriously. Second, like I said, in my experience, therefore it would not exactly be a stereotype huh?

All manner of things, capitalism for example, though I don't see a need ofr any prticular idealogical system, why not simply use what works?

It is the problem in that they won't wokr because of that.

Many aren't.

Look at people's lives in the majority of the rest of the world, we have it better don't we?

That may be, but economically the country is doing pretty good.

This one may not be in response to anything I said, but if you don't see the problem of having no economy, then I must doubt your intelligence. No offense intended.