what political ideology are you?

Discussion in 'The Whiners' started by Burbot, Feb 4, 2005.

  1. Soulless||Chaos

    Soulless||Chaos SelfInducedExistence

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    Then go to college.
     
  2. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    There is NO COMMON STANDARD OR PURPOSE... i never said there was one... People take the law into their own hands, they do not rely on a central government to do so. If someone were to retaliate, that does not mean it is a principle that EVERYONE agrees with. Its self-government.
     
  3. Soulless||Chaos

    Soulless||Chaos SelfInducedExistence

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    I don't make people out to be good. :rolleyes: Though I try my best to be, I don't expect so much from others. If there wasn't aminimum wage, I'm sure they would try that, but that doesn't mean you couldn't 'fight' back. And capitalism does work, just not for everyone. I don't think it ever was intended to. It will however work for you, if you make it. :D
     
  4. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    You see soulless... that is not possible for everyone, we are not all born with a silver spoon in our mouth.
     
  5. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    can't if you have no money cause you have a shit job
     
  6. Soulless||Chaos

    Soulless||Chaos SelfInducedExistence

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    What about your example of 'the people' stopping a rapist? That shows common purpose of a sort, and so it is not anarchy.
     
  7. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    okay, it's settled. communism/socialism are cool. go away :D
     
  8. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    The people does not mean all the people.. it just means People. It doesnt mean everyone agrees with one another.. or there is any common purpose
     
  9. Soulless||Chaos

    Soulless||Chaos SelfInducedExistence

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    Financial aid, loans, or even... :eek: Using your shitty wages to secure an education, and improve your lot. :eek:
     
  10. Soulless||Chaos

    Soulless||Chaos SelfInducedExistence

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    Hehe exactly, they won't all agree, and some group or similar will become dominant, ending anarchy.
     
  11. Edward G.

    Edward G. Edwardson

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    haha. y'all heard burby. :D OUTTA HERE. communism/socialism is the winner here. gooooo awaaaaay :D
     
  12. Soulless||Chaos

    Soulless||Chaos SelfInducedExistence

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    And if the people are so divided, all the easier to exploit them.
     
  13. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    Not all poor people can GET financial aid... a lot of people arent eligable for financial aid... Lots of people cant get loans... because they have shitty credit... And how are you supposed to pay off the loan?

    And you cant use your shitty wages to secure an education, because you have to use that money to pay the bills and feed your family.
     
  14. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    Exploiting people is making them work 2 full time jobs and still not have enuf money to make ends meet... while your boss sits in his jaqousie (spelling?) sips margaritas and snorts lines of cocaine all day...
     
  15. Soulless||Chaos

    Soulless||Chaos SelfInducedExistence

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    Surely there is some form or another of loan you can get, and if not you could still use your wages, if you manage your income properly. If you are dedicated enough, surely you can find a way. How to pay off the loans? Do you even need to ask? :rolleyes: With the increased income you will hopefully make with your newfound education. :rolleyes:
     
  16. Soulless||Chaos

    Soulless||Chaos SelfInducedExistence

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    The only reason they can pay so low, is because someone is willing to work for it. And if people are willing to work for it, then parhaps it is enough to make ends meat, or why would people be so willing to take the job? And what's wrong with the boss doing that? Should he not be allowed to enjoy his hard earned success?
     
  17. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    Soulless, i know you arent old enough to have a family yet... and you have no idea how much it costs to have children... There is absolutely no way to use your wages to pay for college when you have to support your family if you have a shitty job.

    I know people who work 2 full time jobs, and are still in debt. They live in a shitty runned down house, have three kids, and cant afford to put a single one of them thru college. It's hard to manage your income when you don't have any to begin with, all you have is debt.

    First you need to get your degree, than you need to find a job, than HOPEFULY you will make enough to pay the enormous amount of interest you've collected.
    Although MANY people out of college find themselves in DEBT because of their student loans.
     
  18. Soulless||Chaos

    Soulless||Chaos SelfInducedExistence

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    Perhaps they should have not gotten in debt to begin with? And if they can't support themselves and kids, why did they have kids?
    As far as debt from the loans/interest, well, that's the chance you take. You can wallow in mediocrity if you prefer. :rolleyes:
     
  19. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    They can pay so low because every other company out there gives the same unskilled laborer the same s hitty wages. People take the job because no other job will give them better wages, and its hard enough for them to find a job in the first place. That does NOT mean its enough to make ends meet.. not at all
    He didnt work nearly as hard as the ones who work under him. He got a lucky break... and now, he is not working... He spends so much money on coke, yet he dare not spend the money on his workers salary.
     
  20. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    They try their damn hardest to support their family... Its not like you can CHOOSE whether or not to have kids... they just kind of come... What do you suggest, they all get abortions if they cannot support their family? Its not like they know how much it costs to raise a family... many people like you havent a clue how much it costs to have a kid. You cant CHOOSE whether or not to become in debt... if you start with nothing, you think you can pay the bills... but lets say you get fired, or laid off, now you cant pay the bills and you're in debt.

    The chance you suggest people use to get an education, is a chance in which will get them in debt.
     
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