What Makes A God?

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  1. thedope

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    Remember the true terms are same or different. Wife is wife.
     
  2. Moonglow181

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    Become a Mormon and you can have as many as you want.....No one is stopping you.....
    The concept would never work for me, though.
     
  3. storch

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    Well, my desire to not be a Mormon is stronger than my desire to have two wives, so, that settles that.

    I don't really want multiple wives. It would serve no purpose.
     
  4. thedope

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    This. You have a mountain of candy bars and each one will taste the same but the diet will begin to sicken because we need balanced nutrition. I read the highlights of life and assume they are the best we can come up with to this point. To choose a book look for the highest acclaim. Learn what it suggests. A single thought can change a whole mind and it is the solution that teaches not the problem. Of those things negative they a have single lesson that is spoken in every language and tone imaginable to get you to pay attention, you don't want it. Don't leave your hand in the fire and think you won't get burned. Some are so dense that there bones need to be pulverized. But know that we walk through the blistering desert unscathed if we are soft rain
     
  5. themnax

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    what makes a god? owing nothing to what anyone thinks they know about, and owing even less to putting ego ahead of logic.

    (also being more real then conceptual alone, while simultaniously being indipendent of any need for physical existence in any sense of form.)
    (existing without needing anything in order to do so.)
    at any rate, the more we say about it, the less likely whatever we say.

    there are lots of things a god could be, even a computer or a committee.
    provided, either, existed, at least partially, outside of time and space.

    something so strange, that anything we say about it is meaningless.

    something no one has ever though of. no not that, you've just thought of it.
     
  6. themnax

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    something that can still exist, when every answer to what it is, is just as much bullshit as every other answer.
     
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    Check out my latest posts in Esoteric, (Hidden), Knowledge in the LSD section
     
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  9. rjhangover

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    If evolution is real, how is it that only humans have evolved to the point of conceptual thought? If evolution is not real, what do you call what has happened over the last 120 years? We've gone from horseback to the moon. Since the first steam engine was invented, it took 150 years for information to double. Now information doubles every 20 years. And by 2020 information will double every three days.
     
  10. heeh2

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    Everything as one.
     
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  12. themnax

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    people will confuse anything to make a point, or attempt to deny ignorance.
     
  13. guerillabedlam

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    Depending on definition, I think it could be argued (even show) that several animals have developed conceptual thought. Darwinian evolution suggests that gradual improvements develop over lengthy periods of time for a species with the parts that they have developed. So it's no surprise that a cat or dog doesn't all of a sudden starting conversing with you in English when they hear you talk, (Really do we even understand all their 'primitive' barks and meows?)

    I leaned towards the idea that the vast number of neuronal connections is one of the primary reasons why we had so much more advanced conceptual abilities, I had thought that it was far greater than any other species for awhile and I think that was reflected in the available evidence too but apparently a type of whale has more than us. I think our ability to walk upright and have our head sit atop our skull is another contributing factor though.
     
  14. NoxiousGas

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    who says we are the only ones to have advanced that far?

    before such assumptions can be made, we first need to bridge the language barrier between species.

    what has happened over the last 120 years is that modes of transportation improved, printing and distribution of books improved, radio, television, internet, coupled with the advances in medicine that saw more people surviving into adulthood and those adults living decades longer all goes to increase the information pool and the speed at which information is disseminated.
    From there it is as simple as Joe in Des Moines reading something Sally in Tokyo wrote and being inspired to create new information
    whether it be ideas or materials, that is how/why shit keeps progressing exponentially, it's not biological evolution, just better access to information.

    to quote thedope;
    knowledge is being shared
     
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    i think you and him got that part pretty good.
    another baseless assumption a lot of people seem to make, is the idea that our earth is so special, that our solar system is the only one in which there are sapeint people living on one of its planets.
    whether or not we'll ever be able to confirm it, there's absolutely no reason to make the assumption that this is the case.
    or that people who evolved on any two different planets would look anything like each other.

    tens and even hundreds or more of light years between different solar systems, and we've only had these things less then a couple of hundred years.
     
  16. rjhangover

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    That's what they call "not being able to see the forest for the trees."
     
  17. guerillabedlam

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    These improvements are not biological evolution in terms of speciation but such advancements are in line with adaptations, which is a subset of evolution.
     
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  19. NoxiousGas

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    are you implying that there are/have been biological adaptations due to technological advancements?
    The only type of measurable biological change that has been documented as being directly linked to our technological advancements; the increasing occurrence of allergies in children.
    Because a large portion of the population has moved from rural lifestyles/environments to much more "sanitary" suburban environments, young children immune systems are not challenged as much and over recent generations has begun to manifest in myriad allergies in children and the trend is suspected to beginning to induce genetic changes.
    That is an example of our technology resulting in changes to the genome.
     
  20. NoxiousGas

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    What?
     
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