What Jesus Said About The Conclusion Of The System Of Things

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  1. humanbeaing

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    These are Jesus words from 2000 years from the bible. Do you think he can foretell the future?






    While he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately, saying: “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?”
    In answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads you, for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for these things must take place, but the end is not yet.
    For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.
    “Then people will hand you over to tribulation and will kill you, and you will be hated by all the nations on account of my name. Then, too, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another. Many false prophets will arise and mislead many; and because of the increasing of lawlessness, the love of the greater number will grow cold. But the one who has endured* to the end will be saved. And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
     
  2. humanbeaing

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    And this is what Paul said people would be like in the last days


    But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power and from these turn away. From among these arise men who slyly work their way into households and captivate weak women loaded down with sins, led by various desires, always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth.
     
  3. humanbeaing

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    Of course, Jesus is not real and really didn't say these things cause he didn't exist. The bible does not exist either
     
  4. Meliai

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    That kind of stuff has always happened. Wars, famine, greed, killing in the name of religion..those are all tales as old as time. Its easy to predict the future when you predict it will be just like the present.
     
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  5. IMjustfishin

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    quick guide to fortelling the future:

    1. mention bad things because they are sure to happen. include war, famine, and natural disasters.
    2. mention good stuff too, because some good stuff is bound to happen amidst all the bad stuff. be sure to mention, peace, kindness, love, and faithfulness.
    3. avoid anything specific, dont mention specific names or dates.
     
  6. humanbeaing

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    It is not merely the fact that there have been wars, famines, earthquakes, and crime that is significant. Did you realize that the sign Jesus gave was a composite one? He did not say that any one event by itself would prove that we were in “the last days.” But when the entire sign is in evidence, that is significant and especially when it appears on a global scale.
     
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    So in other words he predicted the rise of the Internet and global communications, which is what enables news to be broadcast around the world, so it just SEEMS like there is more of this than before, but in reality it's the Same as It ever was...
     
  8. humanbeaing

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    He may well of known as the population increased that communication would be global. It may have been similar in some aspects but not the same.
    As foretold at Revelation 6:4, ‘peace was taken away from the earth.’ Thus the world has continued to be in a state of upheaval ever since World War I , World War II was fought from 1939 to 1945, as of 1982 there had been another 270 wars since 1945. Upwards of 100 million persons have been killed in warfare during this century.
    There are tens of thousands of nuclear weapons deployed for immediate use. Leading scientists have said that if the nations were to use even a fraction of their nuclear arsenals, civilization and possibly the entire human species would be destroyed.


    The United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization estimates that nearly 870 million people of the 7.1 billion people in the world, or one in eight, were suffering from chronic undernourishment in 2010-2012. Almost all the hungry people, 852 million, live in developing countries, representing 15 percent of the population of developing counties.
     
  9. Anaximenes

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    That evolution is false; that the world system is with the devil.
     
  10. tikoo

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    a reality of nuclear weapons/energy is rather new and of profound anxiety . this has been the Age of Fire - anxiety
    level a-rising .

    yes , please endure . this is the prayer . why diss it ?
     
  11. humanbeaing

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    The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one
     
  12. Okiefreak

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    Yea, verily. I'd also predict that within a year, the Dow Jones industrial average will plunge by at least 10%, there will be more beheadings by Muslim extremists, the Federal Reserve will raise interest rates, thousands of women will be raped, Rand Paul will change his postion on a major issue, and Republicans wil blame at least one of these developments on President Obama. It shall come to pass. Mark my words!
     
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    what has been elementally perceived by the prophet ? a great angst and suffering . then , it is given illustration .
     
  14. ginalee14

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    2020 has been my focal point since 2009. On 09/09/09 I sat down and drew out a calendar. I made it all the way to 2020. Sure am glad I did that because it got me through all the 2012 energies with little to no trouble. I was constantly trying to spread awareness of 2020 because I believed that it would do for others what it did for me. 2012 came and went with no energetic feelings and no mental fixation, whatsoever.

    Ever hear of "20/20" vision? Normal vision.

    I set my mind to think that Earth and Humanity would achieve some sort of balance by 2020. If the Return of Christ is to judge, and if I believe that it is currently happening, then I set my mind to think that judgment is an ongoing process that results in Justice, and that Justice is Balance.

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    It's a thought process that gets me through space and time, in a world of constant crisis. Hmm, I just noticed the word isis in crisis. Maybe isis is the last phase (or one of the last phases) of Humanity's crisis. Solve isis and we're a step closer to Justice. Balance. If only..

    Of course, these thought processes aren't Scriptural .. it's just my hopeful optimism talking.
     
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    im always surprised that people who say they can predict stuff are never able to predict lotto numbers. they can predict there will be wars but for some reason not lotto numbers. why? seriously why? why cant anyone ever predict lotto numbers?


    its so easy to prove that these predictions are bullshit. we can do it right now: lets all make predictions.

    thats a pretty good prediction.

    i got one: rich people are gonna get richer. poor people are gonna get poorer.

    but i guarentee nobody will be able to predict lotto numbers.

    and why would anyone raise awareness for the year 2020? what, its coming? why not raise awarenes for 2019 or 2021. why did you choose 2020, oh yeah cuz of 20/20 vision, that makes a whole lot of sense.
     
  17. humanbeaing

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    2 Peter 3:3, 4
    First of all know this, that in the last days ridiculers will come with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires and saying: “Where is this promised presence of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep in death, all things are continuing exactly as they were from creation’s beginning.
     
  18. ginalee14

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    Yes, it does make sense. What doesn't make sense is, why would you shit on that? I'll tell you why. You shit on it because it came from me.

    I'd rather have people believe in it, than join you with your foul attitude.
     
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  19. IMjustfishin

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    so as long as people ridicule what you believe, you consider those to be the last days?
    how long are these last days going to last?
    when have people not ridiculed the bible and christianity?


    ok, ok, im sorry, im going to honestly try to understand your logic (or lack).

    you believe that christ's judgement is currently happening and its an ongoing process that will achieve some sort of balance by the year 2020. and you came up with this year because 20/20 is normal vision.

    im sorry its just halarious. its not my fault its halarious ok?

    please, please dont stop making posts like this. seriously, its fun to read. i know i cant be the only one who thinks this.

    ill seriously do whatever you want if you dont stop making posts like this. if you want i wont quote you or address you directly, ill like all your posts (im gonna do that now), but please dont stop writing these kinds of posts. i hereby request more of your predictions, theories, and ideas in the form of more posts please.
     
  20. humanbeaing

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    I guess we will see how long it lasts. The fruit is ripe, it is time to harvest.
     

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