What Is Your Ideal Political System???

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jesuswasamonkey, May 9, 2004.

  1. jesuswasamonkey

    jesuswasamonkey Slightly Tipsy


    My Ideal political system would be a lottery democracy. A lottery democracy is a system where for every public office a number of people would be selected at random from the population which will be governed by the office, then an election is held between these candidates to select a governor.

    So, for Mayor of Denton County, a dozen candidates would be selected at random from the of-age population of denton county. For governor, congressman, or senator of Texas, two dozen or so candidates will be drawn from the entire population of Texas. For president the candidates will be drawn from the entire population of the country. Like jury duty, everyone who "wins the lottery" is required by law to run for office and serve if elected, and no one who is not drawn at random is allowed to run or serve.

    With a decent number of candidates, it can be assured that there will be a few candidates with a frontal lobe, and the random system would keep career politicians, profiteers, and power grubbers out of office. I think this is the best form of government possible, it is the closest a government can possibly be to truly representing the interests of the people.

    But what, in your mind, is the best possible form of government?
  2. Loki

    Loki Member

    got to say you have a lot more faith in people then I do.

    I don't have the creative sense to come up with an idea of my own but i would say the direct democracy would be my ideal. It lets all involved decide each issue. It would eliminate politicians, and put every issue in the hands of the public. However judging by the amount of people who can't find the time to get to a voting booth every 4 years, asking them to go every couple weeks probably would be to much to ask, and that would be the main problem with it.
  3. Megara

    Megara Banned

    That was done in athens, it didnt work so well.

    I like the system we have now....225+ years and still kickin under the same government..not many nations in the worlds history can claim better
  4. SunFree

    SunFree Member

    "Democracy is the worst form of government . . .except for all the rest."
    ~ Benjamin Franklin

    :p Good ol Benny.
  5. God

    God Member

  6. nimh

    nimh ~foodie~

    LOL @ God

    i think i'd prefer anarchy straight up over this centralized system that's in place right now

    or maybe some kind of system where there are computerized referendums on everything where every individual would get to put in their vote. we have the technology. some kind of ultimate democracy without the politicians.
  7. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

    post petrolium, post monitary, post warring states, nonhierarchal, high tec, low stress, do it yourself, eco-socialist semi-potlatching
    i think that pretty much covers both politics and economics
    where some sort of council of elders is required, plurality voting (all write in, no political parties, everyone eligible to vote eligable to be elected) at the local level (anualy for the number of seats on that council)
    i would also greately prefer to let everyone interested in any issue debate and vote directly on it
    over any pretense of the myth of representation
    but where the generality of the populace can arrive at no implimentable consensus in a reasonable timefraime then it falls to that council of elders to do so
    but they can only enact what they arrive at a universal consensus on
    and then it still has to be passed back to the general populas for final approval

    also no member of said council has any individual authority outside of the authority
    of the consensus of the council

    furthermore neccessary infrastructure institutions (such as energy, transportation and data based communications) are free to be guided by their own councils of expertese in providing the objective of that particular infrastructure in an harmonious and sustainable manor
    there's a bit more about this on my website
    also check out deep ecology
  8. osiris

    osiris Senior Member

    ideal? the one where everyone takes care of their own without having to inflict harm on another. you know, the one that has never existed. i find myself wondering about that whole taoist myth that we were once perfectly in harmony with nature...

    much love :)
  9. Megara

    Megara Banned

    harmony in nature depends on death and violence
  10. osiris

    osiris Senior Member

    that is kind of what i was thinking while reading the ridiculously romantic taoist viewpoints of this in various books. overall harmony does not necessarily equal individual harmony.

    much love :)
  11. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

    Given the size of the US and the vast diversity of its population, our first past the post winner take all system is woefully inadequate and, as has been shown in the past 3 years, extremely dangerous both domestically as well as internationally.

    Having the benefit of having lived in foreign countries for the past 14 years I have come to believe very strongly in the Parliamentary system of multi-party proportional representation. It allows for no overwhelming majorities of any particular party or ideology and forces coalition building to establish a viable government.

    This is the only system i have seen which might prevent the runaway unaccountability that has come to characterise Washington.
  12. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

    a real democracy... as visioned by me.
  13. BraveSirRubin

    BraveSirRubin Members

    I would be happy with a libertarian government...

    even an ideal has to be able to "work".
  14. God

    God Member

    nimh, what is this link at the bottom of your posts? I think it is a fake conspiracy web site that all the links on it list towards the same program download, suggesting a virus of sorts to sabotage activists and voters' struggle to educate themselves on all viewpoints, even ones that are negative to the ruling party.

  15. nimh

    nimh ~foodie~


    that's the silliest thing i've heard in a long time
  16. Maverick83

    Maverick83 Guest

    Well, I don't know exactly what I want, but I know this. It isn't:
    Pure Democracy
    Pure Capitalism
  17. thespeez

    thespeez Member

    I've read in one of your previous posts that you claim to be libertarian. This sounds about as bit far from libertarianism!
  18. thespeez

    thespeez Member

    You said in at least one previous post that you claim to be libertarian. But this seems to be quite a bit far away from that. What gives?
  19. jesuswasamonkey

    jesuswasamonkey Slightly Tipsy

    How is that not libertarian?

    I think libertarians would love that system. Libertarians are all about a government run for and by the people.
  20. DarkLunacy

    DarkLunacy Senior Member

    Anarchy without materializm... Just pure essence and nature. Without materialistic desire it would work. Think about it....

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