what is wrong with society & why did i post this in the LSD section?

namaste soul brother

its all good

 

how sad. if everyone thought this then slavery would still be here, segregation, witch burnings and the like. if ghandi believed like you then the brittish would still be ruling india, cmon brother--have faith! one person CAN change the world...it has happened more than once. imagine if mass populations aligned their energies & intention???? a shift in global conciousness is guaranteed!!!! its the reason so many lightworkers are alive at THIS time in human history. not a millenium away.....the shift is NOW! its already happening & it has been happening for some time.

Books like Celestine Prophesies, The Secret etc....look at how "mainstream" these ideas have now become--enough to land them on Oprah....people ARE waking up.

Its our human nature to evolve. We are an evolving species.

 

hahahahahahahahahaha....if there was anyone that ever did need a squirt with lsd its a cop!!! GREAT visual!

 

It's when people realize that Cosmic Consciousness, illumination, enlightenment, God-Realization, Self-Realization, moksha, Sat Chit Ananda, Bliss ever new and never ending, and divine perception of God (all the same things with different names) are results of evolution and not just some magical 'chosen one' experience, that will cause this massive shift of collective universal consciousness.
It is not something that a few people get and then through divine magnetism welcome others into Heaven (like how Christians tend to think Jesus died to open the gates ((metaphor)) ) alone, but it is through their example that started with one person and branched out into the forefront of consciousness of many. Like how humanity evolved into a state where all humans see in color, have sense of fragrance added to scent, have appreciation for music, and have gained a sense of morality, so cosmic consciousness is just another advance in evolution that we are all moving towards.
It is not a matter of being impossible or possible, it is only a matter of time.

 

in some way slavery still exists. not in the way it used to but disguised as tax. i am not sure what taxes are like around the world but here in canada we have to work at least one day a week just to pay the tax. i do not benefit from all of the tax i pay - a lot of my money gets spent on things i do not need or want. with so many people abusing the system and so much money being wasted on redundant jobs, high wages, write offs and full time government workers with nothing to do all day but socialize. just to name a few of the many ways that my money is being wasted. you see, part of the time i am working for someone else - this is a form of slavery. i have to work real hard to make only $30,000 a year and a part of that money goes to making sure that some shmuck gets $100,000 a year to sit on his ass and make bad decisions... why do they have to take a piece of my pie? - because they havent figured out a system that is fair, yet!

i am sure that there are millions of people around the world who feel like the money that the government takes from them is being wasted. i think it would be very hard to find anyone who is satisfied with the current system. if you do find someone it is because they have never really paid attention to what is going on.

why would anyone want to have a corrupt system decide what happens to their hard earned money?

great post mara-aum, what would i do without you?

 

I know how you feel 3xi. Being a single father and supporting my apartment, my bills, my daycare charge, feeding and clothing my son and buying him fun things for Christmas and birthdays, doctor bills because I have no insurance, etc. really hurts my position. I barely have time to even spend free with my son to get to know him and teach him, because I only make $20,000.00 a year and I let his mother claim him, so I dont get a tax break (even though I should) come April. Last year I owed over $5,000.00. Im on parole for the next 3 years and had my liscence revoked, charged with a crime that I didnt even commit (hit and run, its too long to go into details so youll just have to take my word that I am innocent). And I have to pay a monthly fee just to BE OUT OF JAIL! And they expect me to go twice a week to check in and take a drug test, yet the place is 45 minutes away from my work and they make me call out of work just to go in the first place. I have to walk to work and I gave my sons mom my car, for free! because hers broke down. I work overtime at least 20 hours a week just to have money to get by, and this past weekend his mother got in a horrible car crash and had emergency brain surgery to fix a blood clot that grew to 1/3 the size of her brain. So now I am on full time in charge of taking care of my son, and obviously am unable to work overtime. So everyone I know can pretty much forget recieving any nice christmas presents this year, including my own son. The goverment has fucked me in numerous way, too numerous to count. I barely have any free time because I dont get paid what I should, and then the gov. wants my taxes as well. I dont accept welfare and I dont accept WIK checks. I buy my sons milk and food with money that I work for because I refuse to have money handed to me even though that's what its there for, people who have children and are struggling to get by.
But I dont make my life out to be some horrendous tragedy that is out of my hands, even when I spent time in jail and now my parole situation I accept as an adult and deal with it. I take responsibility for my mistakes and even when I am innocent I just accept my fate and deal with it. But I have the edge over the majority of people that no one seems to be able to figure out (save for you guys on this forum and a few friends I know personally) where my optimism, constant blessing of people, happyness, and willingness to accept comes from. I have come to terms with God as the Absolute. I have realized that even if I am sitting, rotting away in jail for something that was not my fault, the one thing no one can ever take away from me is MY own ability to make myself happy and to see God in everything. No matter how hard this life may treat all of us, it does not matter. The present lifetime is a test, and if we sit around and complain about it, we are failing. It takes an ability to see that Nature, of which we are all born out of and die right back into, is an illusion. A dulaistic karmic binding test that we need to break through.
I am with you 3xi, if I could have MY own money that I earn and not share it with a goverment and with a lot of civilians who abuse that money and dont really need it (people who are lazy in the inner city ghettos, trust me, I am on state parole and have talked to people who dont feel like getting a job and would rather sell coke and leech off welfare) I would be much better off and financially secure. I dont even take the money that people pay taxes into that I could very easily accept because I do not believe in that sort of taxation. I could understand if I were to accept the welfare that I would pay taxes with a smile. But I dont, and I dont think its fair. But, whatever, as of right now that's how it is and I just have to go along with that part of the system in order to make sure my son is not taken away from me.
Things will change, like I said it is only a matter of time.
But for now, I think your dream is honourable and respectable 3xi, no matter how initially flawed it may be in certain aspects. I dont wish to contribute to trying to down play your dream because it is the dreamer s who make life interesting. Just keep holding onto your hope and with enough will power, positive energy and an honest Love for your fellow family of humans, every little bit helps. Even just thought has a tangible vibrational effect on that which it is intended.
Good luck and good health
Om shanti and namaste family, keep your head up, and I love you all

 

wow you guys are getting pretty radical in here.



i dont understand why everyone is so against cops. what do they do, besides enforce the law? do you really think that is a bad thing? i mean really? listen...like it or not....a utopia is never ever ever ever ever ever ever going to exist. ever. people aren't capable of that. and spraying everyone with acid to force them to think like you is just wrong. that is no better than what you accuse the government of doing, whether it "enlightens you" or not.

 

Neodude some cops are just doing there job and honestly want to help people. But growing up in SW Philadelphia, I can assure you, a LOT of police officers are out to hurt people and be pricks just because they are selfish, careless people. I've been the victim of police brutality more than once, and the first time it happened, one of my friends who was black got the shit beat out of him (at 16 years old) for having a 20$ bag of cocaine in his shoe. And I mean he was knocked the **** out

 

that's exactly right...





too bad nobody was even remotely close to suggesting that

 

well you are wrong there.

when i say i am not sure if that is the best idea i mean that i probably could never do such a thing. the idea of dosing some intruder may seem like a good idea right now but when it came down to it i think all i could really do is knock them out and remove him from my house. i believe we should all have the freedom to choose and make up our own minds. honesty i think the only way to go is to influence others in a way that will have them taking the LSD by their own free will. anyone who has done enough LSD knows about the drugs abilities to wake people up so it is no surprise that some people see LSD as the answer to a lot of the problems we face in the modern world. if more people did LSD the world would be a better place i am sure. maybe i should dose mara-aum's glass of milk tonight so that she can have a powerful trip before she has to go to work in the morning and see how she likes the idea then...lol... really, it is not a good idea to force anyone to do anything unless you want to deal with the bad karma.

so, my official stand point is that dosing someone with LSD in attempts to wake them up is not the best idea! i am not saying that it is a bad idea but i would never be able to do it myself.

 

I absolutely agree with you about society and sometimes think it would be best if I and my closest friends just moved out to a mountain top in northern Canada away from civilization and built a nice home.Then of course I start to convince myself that that is selfish and the world needs people who can tell them important advice and brighten their maudlin fueled lives. We will advance past this darkness as a majority, and I do not believe that it is too far away from happening. Law enforcement in the United States is extremely corrupt despite what some people think. Cops driven by adrenaline are some of the most violent drug addicts on the face of this planet. They come with rifles, they come with superiority complexes to destroy the lives of far too many peaceful and many times completely innocent families. It has happened to many of us including me. It seems that not a day goes by that the news does not broadcast senseless police brutality. The real criminals almost never go down because they are the ones who pay the law enforcement community. Just a week ago I remember seeing "inncoent def man tazered while taking shower after police broke in and destroyed his home" Bullying tactics like these are out of hand damnit and too many good people have been physically and financially beaten in to submission by squads of blood thirsty animals. They serve and protect the wealthiest people who can do whatever they want, while they force the majority into compliance with every backwards law that they can no matter how many constitutional and human rights they violate. They are brainwashed into believing that they are doing the moral thing but this is such a disgusting lie at times it sickens me.

"peter popper mentioned something in another thread about how in the future the police will be able to bust you within seconds for doing something illigal." - I believe the only reason they do not is because it would be too obvious. We have to do everything we can to make the public aware that if everyone stands against this travesty of bullying together, then we can get something accomplished for peace, love and spiritual evolution. One of my favorite quotes ever is by Muhammad Ali. "I know I got it made while the masses of people are catchin' hell, but as long as they ain't free, I ain't free." He was talking about black people but it is definitely universal for everyone. If no one follows the rule at all, they will have no room to put everyone in prison, not to mention the economy would fall apart with everyone behind bars. They can't lock everyone up and they can't kill everyone.
"as for the police i think that they should become a rescue squad and have nothing to do with making arrests." This is exactly what should happen, couldnt have said it better myself. As it is, police seem to be doing just the opposite in many cases. They lock up more non-violent people than violent ones. In a situation where someone could get killed, the rescue squad should use lsd in order to immobilize people because it is better than death! "another example - someone breaks into my house but i can not hurt them in anyway or i will be breaking the law - instead i have call 911 and hope the guy doesnt hurt us before the police get there. if we were given the freedom to kill anyone who entered our home i am sure there would be a lot less home invasions going on." I am pretty much in agreeance here. Police do nothing for someone in this situation because they do not arrive until it is too late. Rape is the same way. If someone really wants to kill someone else, it is unable to be prevented. The best measure against crime is to let the victim become empowered. In our society many people seem to act like weak helpless victims.
We are born into a situation where we are told what to think and do, we need a new age of self empowerment. We need to base our morals on what we believe is right from experience, not from what someone else tells us. Television commercials could support these views instead of guilt tripping pacifists who smoke pot. We really do need a stronger community among people as well. Instead of pointless political crap we should have meetings for each street, each section of people. We should focus our meetings on voting on emergency measures in case of a crime. If a crime is committed against one person in an area, the entire area should come together to defend their brother or sister. We need to discuss the real issues and form our own sub-governments. I am open to ideas about this issue, and will attempt to elaborate further after hearing suggestions and opinions.

If we want a better world, these close relationships with our neighbors key.

"there is something very wrong with a country that says you live in a free country as long as you follow their rules!!!" - This should be the new slogan we advertise on television. Most people watch the idiotbox and allow their lives to be manipulated by sitcoms and rediculously blatant hidden meanings in commercials which always say something to the effect of 'you will never be happy without this product'. This needs to change, it is a flaw in capitalism.

The pay as you go tax system is very easy to accomplish and would definately help to get things done. It is already starting to happen in places, express ways in California that you must pay to use and such. The only problem here is price fiixing. Different compamies would make agreements to jack up all the prices and we would need some way to make sure that this never got out of hand. We cannot get rid of the economic system all together of course, we need to make sure that corporations do not wage violent murderous wars against each other, although globally this appears to happen all too often. A prime example is the war in the middle east. Huge corportations battling it out with murder of brainwashed troops. The local government is the best way to act independantly as a people of these corporations forcing their rules on us with bullying.

"like i said we need a system that works. no one wants to go back in time." I think that time is pretty cyclical and repeats very frequently. If we can ussure in a new era of peace we could break this cycle, but it is going to take a majority banding together.

"TAX IS WRONG -" YES. Instead of tax we need people to pay funds directly to school systems and hospitals. People should pay for their services and have these systems run as the businesses they are without lining the pockets of unnecesary people. Medicine has long been repressed because it is not profitable to cure disease, it is only profitable to sell drugs to people that will only force them to take more drugs. We need free market in medicine in order to actualize the benefits of real cures. I believe lsd can cure some types of mental disorders. I believe that marijauana is a miracle drug for the truly ill and should be used OTC for pain management. This war against the real medicines in order to boost sales of inferior dangerous ailments is disgusting, but I do not know how we could change it. Certain antioxidant extracts have recently been recognized for their potential to ward off most disease including cancer. People need to be aware of this! Again, this should be advertised on television instead of advertising for horrible under-researched dangerous drugs. For instance, 'Ever feel as though you are missing something in life? Is your selfishness or confusing desire dragging your life into depression and anxiety? Ask your doctor about LSD-25'

"we could all have an account on line under our social security number where we decide what services we want to subscribe to. i would transfer my money every month to all the services that i need. kinda like what we do now for our hydro and telephone. " - Very good suggestion but still we need to have a way to make sure that price fixing does not occur in these services.

Health care is important right now, and we need some way to pay our funds to the right people directly. We cannot have anymore funds wasted lining some richmans pocket while there are people suffering who cannot afford to be serviced. Again, if medicine where not repressed, soo many less people would ever need healthcare in the first place.
The fire department should be exactly how you described it, good thinking.
Our education system is so faulty right now, we need reform their as well. Honestly I believe that it should all be done online. Parents choose which courses to enroll their children in and forums will be there to help out anyone looking for guidance. Librarys would become the new schools, they would be huge and filled with computers. Everyone with a child or a love of knowledge could come to the library for further mediation and guidance.

The military needs to be strictly for defense, no questions asked. These corporate wars are getting more and more pointless.

Too true my friend too true. I can sense the grief of denial in the masses each day I face them. I can see it in their eyes. I can see it in their gestures. I can see it in their actions and hear it in their words. A change is upon us.

 

rolf, wtf!? i know the government contemplated spraying lsd on opposing soldiers, but that was before they knew the effects.
i just thought neodude was being an ass, my bad.
i don't even want to think about what the administration would do if such a dumb thing happened.

 

touchee.....good point. as much as i like dosing out--set & setting is everything & to have it "sprung" on you would not be fun....and therefore wouldn't likely achieve the desired effect.

it happened to a friend once. she was going through a terrible trajedy and some guy she knew snuck it in her food. she said they had floral wallpaper and to her the vines were moving and closing in on her...she really believed she was losing her mind. it was her worst moment in life and it has turned her off lsd for good.

spike my milk 3xi???????? hahahahahahaha..........too funny!

 

amen!!!!! between you & 3xi you get a lot of bases covered!

you mention small streets having meetings & taking care of its own...i was fortunate enough to grow up in such a community. it was in the heart of toronto--a big city. but our little neighbourhood was nestled between 5 toxic factories & a stock/slaughter yard and we were pretty much insulated and a ton of small family business made our neighbourhood pretty much self sufficient. also, we were all mostly from the same culture & spoke our mother tongue & so there was another bond. our neighbourhood was nicknamed "crackland" and was dominated by a local street gang. the rule was that since they all lived in these streets and you don't "shit where you eat" they made all there money outside the block. they didn't deal to local kids. also they wouldn't permit crimes to happen to locals. even though it was one of the most dangerous neighbourhoods, i could walk around by myself at any hour with no fear. no one would dare touch a local.

one day the gang found out that a local parent was a pedefile & raping his 12 year old daughter. the mom plead with the gang for help and they helped the girl run away to a safe distant relative....and when the dad came looking he lost an arm. sounds pretty fair to me. we never needed cops in my neighbourhood. they were a nuicence and mostly came around when they felt like beating someone up (usually for nothing--existing was reason enough for them to kick your ass)

so--amen guys! keep working on it. i'm sure there are PLENTY of people who feel the same/similar....its just no one has the balls (until now) to say so.

 

Not to think like me.
To think like them.
Dose people, so they can think like people.

And I do agree with this. Going around dosing people for just various reasons, or any reason, is wrong.
But when I said, replace bullets with LSD. That doesn't mean to bring a new guide of judgement with LSD. It means, retain the same judgement that you would when using bullets. But instead, use LSD. Which if maintaining that guise, the number of LSD dosings you would do in your lifetime would for most part be none. I mean, how many people do you think youd ever shoot in your lifetime? Just if it ever does come right down to it, I'd much prefer psychological death to physical death. I do agree, there are many karmic implications in it. But if it comes right down to it, I think there'd be less karmic implications in the psychological death.

Of course though, if your already in the right direction and paths, karma never will steer you that way, hopefully.

 

That was a fucking book to read mate.
However, you're very right about many things and you have many valid points.

There are countless theories out there about how our world is going to change in the next 50, 40 or even 10 years! If any of you have seen Tom Cruise' move called Minority Report (I think thats the one I'm thinking of)

The simple idea of a "Pre-cog" existing, and knowing our moves before we even make them, you're right... A lot of us, especially those of us on these forums - Are going to get fucked over pretty quickly, we're going to be running with our asses between our legs all our lives, just to try and ensure our way of life is kept true.

The day that this happens, I'll gladly run to the middle of the woods with a few lbs of weed and a jar full of my LSD, and I'll never fucking come back. I'm not living in a world where the government controlls me.

I don't remember who mentioned force-feeding LSD to people, but I have thought of doing this countless times. Do you have any idea how easy it would be to drop a few drops into a popular stores water / drink supply, and have the fucking world see through our eyes?
That'd be so much fun

 

I really do not want 3xi's forum to end up being about dosing murderers with lsd. I think we can all make a decision whether physical death is better than ego death. That is what it boils down to. Honestly I think there is a better way. We have non-lethal ways to detain people, we need to research those mechanisms of instant detainment more fully. The greater problem is authority abusing these tools.

 

this thread is absolutely ridiculous......

i like how everyone thinks im an ass just because i dont agree with all of you. logically, none of you even make sense. spraying ppl with acid....does that really sound like the answer? all of you DO realize that it's just a chemical right? a drug? not some liquid passed down from heaven to enlighten us all to where we are above society? sorry but all of this just doesn't make sense so go ahead and call me an ass, you all frustrate me very badly.

so let's all go do LSD, sit back and bitch about how everyone is a sheep except for us, recieve our divine blessing and insight, and then do nothing at all. yay.

 

neodude, how does that old quote go? if you don't have anything nice to say then you are being an asshole

 

There are a lot of interesting thoughts in this thread. People have put a significant amount of time into it.

Going forward, please keep all posts on subject.