What is with this organic bashing/ignorance?

Stable molecules are no longer approved for use as pesticides. However misapplied pesticides, particularly the illegal use of like Parathion and Malathion for home pest control, has caused many deaths, since these organophosphates only break down in the field by sunlight.

 

Exactly. DDT is far less toxic than the pesticides that are being used today in people's homes.

DDT has actually saved millions of lives from malaria, which is why it had to be banned as it was going against the globalists' population control agenda. If DDT is as bad as they say it is, then they'd probably still be using it.

 

Monsanto has already developed bug-resistant crops (ie. Bt corn) through genetic engineering which, in my opinion, is just as bad as the overuse of pesticides.

And no, most plants do not produce their own "natural" toxins. That is just ludicrous. Only GM crops produce their own toxins, and GM crops are far from natural and far from safe.

 

According to leading agricultural scientists, on existing farmland, we could only produce enough food to feed around 4 billion people people. I don't think 1/3 of the planets population would raise their hands to starvation.

I don't have a problem with anyone eating organic, but it's not better for you, it's overpriced, and I consider it elitist.

 

How is wanting to eat healthy, clean, chemical-free food elitist? That's one of the dumbest things I've heard.

 

I have to disagree with some of this this. I do admit that it is overpriced though. I can't equate a desire to avoid pesticides and chemical fertilizers with being elitist.

 

Oh, of course it's overpriced. That's why it's best to grow your own or buy local if possible.

 

What's elitist is telling the rest of the world how to farm based on an idealist fad.

Eating organically itself isn't elistist. It's just overpriced and not any better for you. You're not exactly the type I'd take health advice from.

 

And DDT use for malaria protection, (a prudent thin covering of layers of houses in high impact zones) and large scale use of DDT as an insecticide in agriculture are two completely different things.

 

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=88C1FE9F-E7F2-99DF-3B5E4B2A74DC5BD1

 

You're right if infants are not exposed to harmful chemicals in utero (which are and fight them off) they won’t be prepared for the bombardment of toxins in the environment.

Organic farming is a great idea in principle, but it only works on a chemical, pollution free planet


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And would only work with much more farm land.

So that would mean we would have to create a lot more land for agriculture. Cutting millions of acres of forests or plains a year, is as environmentally friendly of an option as it sounds.

 

personally, i think that's corporate propaganda. organic growing is pathetically easy. we could easily grow most of our food in our own kitchen gardens on land that is presently wasted on toxic lawns.

 

Where is the logic behind that? Pesticides cost money. Farms want more product per acre/labour hour/dollar invested. If pesticide didn't increase output, they wouldn't use it.

 

the propaganda part comes in where we are told we can't produce enough food to feed ourselves without pesticide. it's just a scare tactic. we can.

 

fennel seeds? i use all the others, when i make my own salad dressings

can do a lot with olive oil as a base, add some red wine vinegar and some hers and spices...quick and easy dressing for a salad

but tomato sauce...no clue haha

 

Those were Nobel Peace Prize winning agronomist, Norman Borlaugs estimates, based on his work in the field of agricutlture for the pat 70 years.

Borlaug hypothesis.

I don't know why you think most people in the US have enough land to grow enough food for themselves and their own families, and would be able to sustain that through winter...

No offense, but that's absurd. Half of the population of this country lives in cities and doesn't have the means to grow their own food, nor could they sustain it though a drought, investation, or weather change.

 

no offense, but i think you may have a somewhat superficial understanding of the topic. borlaug has been widely criticized for contributing to the problem of unsustainability through the widespread adoption of his methods. overpopulation, chemically-induced human disease such as cancer, damage to ecosystems throughout the world, increased pest problems due to vast acreages of monoculture crops being planted throughout the world...these are just some of the charges that have been laid at his feet. when even a fraction of the US population begins using their available land to create sustainable gardens, i'll be impressed with arguments that it can't be done. the fact of the matter is that western people have abandoned the growing of their own food wholesale, and have only themselves to blame if they starve. it's pathetically easy to grow your own food without chemicals, and this is something you would only know if you'd ever tried it. i don't think it's very responsible to run around saying it can't be done if you've never even tried...have you tried?