What is with this organic bashing/ignorance?

i'm pretty sure a majority of food is treated, so in that way it is the norm...

 

exactly.

and a worse term i hear all the time is "Genetic food"
how fucking stupid do you have to be... all food is genetic. it's all genes, they are all natural. all made of the same things.

some plants actually make their own toxins to ward off the insects that swarm on them cos they havent been sprayed. so enjoy eating that with your organic food.

 

'Food genetically altered by people' is a more concise term.

'Genetic food' is a nebulous term. That's making a strawman for the sake of knocking it down.

Much the same for trying to use a general all-encompassing definition of 'organic' to describe organic food as supposedly being no different than a man-made polymer

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From Wiki:

"Organic foods are produced according to certain production standards. For crops, it means they were grown without the use of conventional pesticides, artificial fertilizers, human waste, or sewage sludge, and that they were processed without ionizing radiation or food additives.

For animals, it means they were reared without the routine use of antibiotics and without the use of growth hormones. In most countries, organic produce must not be genetically modified."

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organic fruit rots too fast. since the other fruit has never hurt me, i don't care, either. i just can't afford to buy fruit that's going to be rotten in a couple days.

 

well, if that's the most important consideration, why not buy plastic fruit?

 

Ive never heard anyone say "genetic food". I realy never thought anyone was that stupid, but maybe they are

And "Genetically modified" is a perfectly accurate and acceptable term for many non-organic foodstuffs, if genetic modification has taken place

 

thatd work

 

An insect or 2 is not going to kill. B12 and all that (and im vegan!) Most people eat cattle, youre forgetting. Also, theres this thing you can do called washing. Its served me well.

See insects do not get absorbed through the plants skin and into the whole product. Chemical sprays do, and genetic modification certainly, obviously, modifies the product

 

yes i wash my stuff too but that only removes things on the exterior.

i just think the whole scare campaign against GMO's is a tad ridiculous. if i make a banana red i've added a different gene from some other natural thing. it doesnt suddenly mean the banana is toxic. i can't stand it when i hear people talk crazy.

 

Some people are under the impression that organic food automatically must taste better. Not so. One of the main influences if the quality of taste of a fruit or veg. for that matter is whether it was picked while ripe. Any fruit that ripens on the bush/tree/vine tastes a million times better than any other fruit (organically grown or not) that was picked before maturity so as to arrive on your supermarket shelf with a maximum lifespan.

All this means is that if you are really interested in taste, you buy locally produced in-season fruit.

 

or grow your own fruit! im planning on having a big vege patch and fruit trees in my garden.

 

It doesn't always look better either, and that sometimes turns people off. They think it looks unhealthy because it doesn't have the color and shine that non-organic foods often have with the help of additives.

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mmmmm additives.

 

Well if its insects youre worried about, the genes these people are planting inside your fruit and veg are often from insects. Moths. Spiders. Things liek that

And you honestly think it just works like "green pepper plus moth gene stuck in there equals perfectly natural nd normal green pepper with a hint of moth"? Even if that was the truth, personally id find it disturbing. I wish to chose which genes i consume thank you, and i have decided not to consume animals

But i simply dont believe it DOES work like that. Stick some moth genes in mice, or mice genes in humans, or human genes in potatoes. Endless possibility! But the thought of this is just scary. Truly Frankensteinish. Unnecessary meddling and we dont know what the full effects will be yet. The mixture of the two creates a NEW PRODUCT. What you would eat would not be a green pepper. I think thats my point here (although im rambling on)

 

There is nothing like picking your own food.

 

hmmm i disagree ive never heard of a GMO that used a gene from a spider or moth before??
if it was just a gene then that did something positive to the food then i wouldnt have a problem with it. its not like one gene from a moth is equivalent to eating a moth.

ah frankenstine. actually its not that easy to get sucessful insertions of genes you can't just pick any random gene and put it in something, most of the times it doesnt work. transducing the gene into the DNA is tricky work. and there are a lot of factors which affect gene expression. if you took a human and inserted lots of mice genes the embryo would never come to term. it's really not that simple.

mixture of two creates a new product of course. is this not occuring every day through reproduction and fertilisation? it is technically the same thing.

 

why so aggressively flippant? i need to eat and feed fresh fruits and veggies to my family. they're not plastic, they're affordable. i'd rather the organic stuff, but if it's twice the price with half the life, that's not going to work for me. we're four of us on a single income that barely gets us by.

edit: sorry, didn't see the winking smilie.

 

yea, i would LOVE to see the primary research data on using gense from a spider or moth in food...don't give me articles, i want the primary research on this happening

 

One solution. Grow your own, even if you have limited space, grow what little you can. Then you can be sure of what it is or isn't treated with.