What Is The Purpose Of Helping Others?

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by TheSamantha, Nov 18, 2015.

  1. Desera_xoxo

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    So you want a perfect world? Who doesn't? And what would you know about my skull? You say its an exercise but it seems to me its post that allows you to run your mouth at anyone you don't agree with or so you can be rude. And regardless of my reasoning or anyone else's here at least people do help others, the reason doesn't really matter.
     
  2. Moonglow181

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    This is the quote I was thinking about when I wrote on PR's thread last night.......This is all fine and dandy, as long as it is all inclusive to all living things , IMO. If i detect someone has ill will towards me or anyone or anything I love...or anyone really........I do not care about helping them. they can rot in hell for all i care.....LOL
     
  3. TheSamantha

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    How exactly have I been rude to anyone here? I'm just trying to think critically. I haven't even formulated an opinion on this yet so I don't see how I'm running my mouth at anyone I disagree with.

    I help people here in the Mental Health section and via PMs because it's a give and take. If I don't give, I can't receive.

    Why doesn't the reason matter? Why not get to the bottom of things? That's how civilizations advance, through free thinking.
     
  4. Moonglow181

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  5. NoxiousGas

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    anyone can be nice to their friends or mean to their enemies, it is what people do without even trying or thinking about it.
    try being nice to your enemies if you really want to project a glow. ;)
     
  6. Moonglow181

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    You seem to assume alot about me without even really knowing me.
    Am I trolling everything you say here or bothering you?
     
  7. TheSamantha

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    A perfect world would be one where everyone loved each other and helped each other, wouldn't it? The world I propose, where everyone is consistently self-centered, is less than ideal, but definitely more decent than this one, with the moral inconsistency and complete lack of logic.
     
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  8. Meliai

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    But the self centered assholes are the people ruining this world for the rest of us.

    Good people are just that -good. Not perfect. But at least they're trying, even if they fail at it sometimes. That in itself makes the world bearable.
     
  9. TheSamantha

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    I don't think they're self centered. I think they're evil. Self centered is amoral. While it doesn't help, it doesn't hurt.

    I don't understand why, given that people always fall back on the excuse that nobody's perfect when they act like jerks, I'm not a jerk!
     
  10. Asmodean

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    Being self centered can hurt others (and/or sometimes the environment) to no end. Just not caring enough how the rest is doing or feel something like 'if I'm not doing it to them directly it is not my responsibility'. Actually the indirect damage of people not feeling or acknowledging the responsibility of their actions may cause just as much hurt than pure malintent.
     
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  11. TheSamantha

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    I think it would be different if everyone did that.
     
  12. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    Helping people feels good. I guess I'm selfish.
     
  13. Asmodean

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    I don't see how it would be different in a positive way.
     
  14. Okiefreak

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    We had a situation in Oklahoma recently that made the front page of the newspapers. An African-American couple was so sick of the violence and nastiness in the news lately that they took $1,000 of their savings and paid for the groceries of everybody in the checkout line of a supermarket. They took a break and went to a local eating place for lunch. The owner had seen them at the grocery store and gave them their lunch free. I'm sure we could scrutinize the motives of everybody concerned, but I think more actions like that could change the world for the better. An epidemic of random acts of kindness!
     
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  15. I'minmyunderwear

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    ^ i get it, the purpose of helping others is to get a free lunch.
     
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  16. Okiefreak

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    There's no such thing as a free lunch. The lunch cost them $1000!
     
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  17. Asmodean

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    Seems rather evident.

    I'm intrigued to hear the explanation of OP how self centeredness is better than helping others! How would everyone being self centered make a more decent world? And isn't this already the prevailing attitude in the west?
     
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  18. BlackBillBlake

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    I suppose that it you're very self-centred, the common good or the good of others is a very secondary consideration. Probably a sign of a myopic view of the world and society.
     
  19. TheSamantha

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    Everyone being self centered isn't better than people helping others of course. But it's better than a mixture of help and harm. It's more predictable if you know you're dealing with a consistently self-absorbed person. And you don't even need any help if everyone is self-interested from the very beginning. It might even end racism. It would certainly end radical Islamic terrorism and bullying.
     
  20. Asmodean

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    Really... did you think that through? Helping others is better than being self centered but everyone being self centered is better than a mix of help and harm... uhm. What do you mean with that exactly?
    Racism is a form of discrimination. How would that end with everyone being self centered/absorbed..? I don't see understanding and tolerance expanding in such a scenario.

    Please explain how being self absorbed/centered would end bullying and/or terrorism. I only can picture that in a hypothetical scenario where people would not only be self absorbed/centered but not communicating/interacting at all with each other. That's not only an unrealistic scenario in any way, it's also not what is ment with being self centered/absorbed. There would still be work interactions, schools, religions etc. etc. so how do you picture that??
     
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