The child has the impression that the surrounding community has gained some insight into life that he has not gained because everyone else seems to 'fit in' with more ease. The child does not see himself as different from the surrounding community, he has not learned this yet as the foundation is being laid for his neurosis. Indeed, he longs for something more in his life. Not that everyone else is really different; the case of the thorough going neurotic is one of degrees. Neurosis is the product of two misunderstandings, generally speaking. First, the individual sufferer must misunderstand himself and the nature and source of his mental pain. Then, second, the surrounding community - and especially the shrinks - must then misinterpret the meaning of his sufferings. The sufferer of mental pain always comes to interpret, by what ever by paths, his pain from the perspective of the community. It is only when he sees his suffering through his own eyes that he is on the road to recovery. 2 Popular prejudice maintains that neurosis, and in particular all anxiety states, are either closely related or equivalent to fear. This prejudice has come to be widely accepted among the sufferers of anxiety and panic and is pratically an accepted dogma among most mental health counselors. I boldly contend that fear is often a marginal ingredient in anxiety disorders. The two most significant ingredients in any anxiety disorder (and by this I mean generally neurotic, as opposed to very specific phobias such as a fear of hieghts) are advantage and disadvantage. The concepts of advantage and disadvantage are very applicable to all anxiety disorders. The following dynamic plays itself out in any anxiety disorder: First, the anxiety disordered person fails to recogize their advantages and in turn misunderstands their disadvantages - or in some cases fails to accept the disadvantages. Second, the surrounding community fails to clearly acknowledge the disadvantages of the individual and interprets their frustration as coming from another source. There is great misunderstanding in the creation of any anxiety disorder. And this misunderstanding is both on the part of the surrounding community and on the part of the individual sufferer. Those with anxiety disorders have particular disadvantages that are unique, and they often overlook or forget that these disadvantages are exceptional and worthy of attention as the anxiety disorder begins to create itself. The relationship of the anxiety disordered person to society at large is analogous to the relationship of an aloof, cold and cerebral medical doctor to a passionate disease inflicted patient. There are all sorts of unique and idiosyncratic misunderstandings between the two, and the nature of the misunderstandings powerfully influences the degree of anxiety in the sufferer. Indeed, a benzodiazepine victim who sees a doctor who denies withdrawal constitutes a relationship that can be considered a microcosm of the anxiety disordered person's relationship with society at large. The same dynamic applies in both cases. In fact, during benzodiazepine withdrawal, one is far more prone to interpreting the reactions or gestures of others as akin to those of a cold and dispassionate doctor. The elements of misunderstanding, advantage and disadvantage are key ingredients in this situation. Those who are healthy have an advantage over those who are in withdrawal, so the whole withdrawal experience can provide an important microscope on how an anxiety disorder operates within a society. This is why withdrawal sometimes cures an anxiety disorder, for the first time the sufferer begins to understand himself altogether so well and sees the ins and outs of all life situations with the utmost clarity through his/her new microscope. 3 Those who share a particular set of experiences, the status quo or norm or mainstream, serve as a standard for measuring degrees of mental health or illness. Should an individual, or a family, who is living among the status quo, begin to have experiences different from the group to which they belong (i.e. loss of a career, status, alcoholism/drug abuse, often bad experiences,but not always necessarily bad experiences) mental illness will result when they come into contact with the mental health profession. The specific empirical misfortunes in the lives of those whose experience deviates from the norm are translated into a mental illness originating in that individual. Some mental health professionals would agree that mentally healthy people could in fact have bad experiences, independent of the health of their minds. The professional might try to draw a distinction between the different ways in which a mentally healthy person and a mentally ill person cope with misfortune. This is a good argument up to a point. One might say that the extent to which an individual can fit into a given society is a measure of his mental health. Still there are probably mental health professionals who would counter this by saying - the degree to which one feels distress in the pursuit of "the norm" is a measure of his particular type and degree of mental illness. As though everyone should be made to be suited to this norm?! by drugs or whatever other means there are!? This is the weakness of the above argument. Let me clarify what I am saying, by providing an example. Suppose a college educated family moves to a town dominated by blue- collar workers who practice a religion that the family is unfamiliar with. The town from which this family moved is a complete contrast to the town they are now in. As some time goes by, the family realizes their 12-year-old son seems like a loner and is having trouble in school. The 12-year-old seems moody and anxious most of the time. This is in contrast to his relatively harmonious and sociable personality in the town that they used to live in. Clearly the 12-year-old is worried about something. One night he begins hyperventilating, and complains that he thinks he is having a heart attack. The parents see a drug ad for Xanax on the television. Impressed by the ad, they take their 12-year-old son to a psychiatrist. This psychiatrist has spent the bulk of his life in this blue-collar town. What the psychiatrist (or any mental health professional) sees in the 12-year-old is a young boy who is somehow "different"; he does not meet the criteria of the norm. The psychiatrist also, needless to say, sees an excellent opportunity to prescribe some Xanax (or Klonopin or Ritilin or Prozac, what not) The 12 year old will walk out of the psychiatrist's office with ADHD, bi-polar, GAD, schizotypal personality, panic disorder, who knows what else. Here is a norm, the blue-collar town, totally at odds with the 12- year-olds nature and inclinations. It is not a culture he should even be expected to fit into. In fact, paradoxically, it would be more a sign of mental illness if the 12-year-old became harmoniously integrated into the town that is completely at odds with his nature and upbringing. The 12 years olds anxiety, aloneness, and moodiness were a sign of mental health! not illness! Indeed, in this situation there was a great deal of "distress in pursuit of the norm"; so much distress that Xanax was required. I think one should raise the argument with mental health professionals as to whether or not it is always desirable to become harmoniously integrated into the norm. Feeling distress, becoming a loner, having a panic attack, upon attempting to achieve the status quo can be a sign of mental health. It is not in everyone's nature to be a part of "the norm". Most mental illness is a sign of health.
4 What the mental health profession does, in my own experience, is comparable to throwing someone into a snake pit and then - only after this fact - proclaiming that this person in the snake pit has an anxiety disorder. Or it is possible that one is already in a snake pit by the time they come into contact with the mental health profession. To this situation of being in a snake pit they add benzos, antipsychotics, etc. What they fail to recognize is that the mentally "ill" person, sedated by benzos, is then all the more prone to being bitten by the snakes. The mental health profession totally ignores the uniqueness of the individual and his circumstances. It is never the society or the circumstances of one's life, but always the individual who is ill. Any type of misfortune becomes translated into mental illness. If one has real difficulties in life, one is mentally ill. To misfortune they add neuroleptics, prozac,benzos, what not, so that one may sometimes realize that the snake pit has become more densely packed with snakes by the time they come off the drugs. 5 The mental health establishment has set up a sort of image of the mentally healthy individual who has a perfectly balanced mood, has no unwanted or intrusive thoughts, feels anger or sadness on just the right occasions and never in excess, laughs at only the appropriate moments, is not anxious unless there is something very concrete and threatening to worry about, etc. And of course the goal of psychotropic medicine is to enable one to live up to this ideal image of mental health. Or in other words to become harmoniously integrated into a world that is the cause of much mental disharmony for those who are lacking mental health. I think the sense (or expectation) that one should live up to a certain standard (whether conscious or unconscious) is at the core of many anxiety disorders. I think that one is on their way towards mental health when something like the following goes through their mind, "why any standard(s) at all? Why should I be any particular way? Why should I care what anyone thinks of me? How about no expectations? if the universe is pointless, and the existence of humanity is of little consequence in the grand scheme of things, then why worry about anything?!" .. or something like this. Although one who is pessimistic is seen as having a negative point of view, paradoxically I think that in some ways pessimism can be very good for one's mental health. If it can whole-heartedly be concluded that nothing matters, this often can help to reduce anxiety. Optimism, while it might be associated with mental health, is stressful. Manic-depression is a form of frustrated optimism. It is hope that collapses in on itself. Where one feels a sense of entitlement and has high hopes, there one also will be most likely to become angry. Thus optimism - or anger - can also turn inward and become depression. The level of one's sense of entitlement is proportional to their propensity for anger. The degree to which one can live without hope is proportional to the extent to which they are prepared to land upon the rock wall of reality. I'm not trying to pursuade anyone to become a pessimist in order to reduce stress. Nor have I decided whether I'm a pessimist or not. 6 If health is the ability to overcome disease, then mental "illness" is in a certain sense the inability to overcome an adverse set of circumstances. Whether it is more often the individual who is ill is a matter of much debate. The problem with mental illness is that an ill culture is often mistaken for an ill individual. or, I should say, one of the problems with mental illness is that the ills of the society are transferred onto the individual when the individual is incapable of living up to the standards of a certain norm. It may in fact be that the norm is a sign of "illness", metaphorically speaking. In a "keeping up with the Jones's" type scenario, trying to attain mental health can make you sick. 7 In the final analysis, what constitutes the phenomenon of mental illness is a complex and dynamic interaction of a multitude of forces. Rarely a brain disorder. Social, economic, individual and biological forces overlap and intertwine to shape the personality who ends up sitting in the psychiatrist's office. But I am only stating the obvious. The curious feature of the mental health system, or a portion of it, is its approach. It is totally unprofessional, totally unbeneficial to the mental health of the client. It is strange to think that many mental health professionals do not want to promote mental health. It is not really all that strange because mental illness is their source of income. I mean, telling someone they have an anxiety disorder is totally discouraging. How often do they encourage a client into thinking that he can overcome his shyness or anxiety on his own and without the drugs? This approach is by no means limited to the mental health profession. When I was doing biofeedback for my neck issue, the woman who was a biofeedback specialist, in the course of whatever we were discussing, casually remarked "You're just a very tense person". Like this is supposed to promote a healing of my neck! Totally unprofessional. The chief physical therapist where I was doing the biofeedback, during my first physical therapy session, said "Poor muscle tone, your lack of exercise shows". I had been experiencing tolerance withdrawals for over 1 year on .5 Klonopin, and had lost a considerable amount of weight at this time. And there is all the usual claptrap, "oh, no you won't get off the drug, you'll have to take it for the rest of your life", or "just like a diabetic needs insulin", etc. If they really wanted you to believe that withdrawal symptoms result from your underlying anxiety disorder, I would think they would approach the problem differently. They approach the patient who is experiencing withdrawal in such a way that he is put on the defensive. How is the mentally ill patient supposed to feel uplifted and encouraged and confident with all the prattle and rant that so frequently is hurled at him? Much of the medical community, and most of the mental health establishment, is not in the business of promoting mental health.
8 As I said above, two conditions are required for mental illness. First, the individual must misunderstand himself and misinterpret his own experiences. Then, once this first condition is established, the community surrounding the individual must act out of misunderstanding toward the individual. There are circumstances where only the second, not the first, condition of mental illness dominates. Such cases give rise to poets, philosophers, and occasionally to the founders of religions. 9 No one is immune from mental illness; soon one will either be a basket case or an inspired mental health professional. 10 I wonder if, among both doctors and mental health professionals, there is a conscious attempt to create a self-fulfilling prophecy once one has acquired a psychiatric diagnosis. Thinking back to some of the things various professionals have said to me, it appears as though they were deliberately trying to create an anxiety disorder from out of the raw material of my specific empirical misfortunes. In other words, I came to them as a youth that did not understand his own very concrete and real misfortunes, and in this they saw an opportunity to create mental illness. I can recall a long list of comments made over a period of many years by different professionals, and these seem like some sort of effort to reinforce a sense that I was not mentally healthy. Thinking back, this ultimately seems like a form of cruelty toward one who finds himself in a strange culture (the culture I am in is in the US, but it is totally different from the culture in the US that I moved from. In other words I found myself in a town whose inhabitants I could not relate to, I wasn't a part of the dominant religion, couldn't relate to any of the kids in school, family started having financial difficulties upon moving to this strange culture, etc.); as an adolescent I did have genuinely unfavorable conditions to contend with, however these conditions were outside of the "norm" that mental health professionals commonly encounter in the course of their work. No one took into account the fact that I was an only child. Only children can often be idiosyncratic, and not necessarily because they are striving to be idiosyncratic. The first counselor I saw probably tried to interpret who I was on the basis of the town I was now in, and had no grasp of the fact that I was coming from a different culture and that I was an only child. From his vantage point he may have detected all sorts of schiz's in this child, schizotypal, schizoaffective, etc. although probably not flat out schizophrenia as I was clearly coherent. "you always were an anxious child" .. counselor who I revisited later on in life "you're just different" ... a couselor "you're just a very tense person" .. biofeedback "..seems rather odd and eccentric .. pressure of speech.." .. psychiatrist's write up The list goes on. Once anxious always anxious. And the same applies to bi-polar, schizoaffective, whatever else. I think people who are mentally ill really are mentally ill because they go around believing it. 11 Sometimes an irritable gut or a facial twitch can become generalized into a hatred of the universe or a profound nausea over mankind's existence, so too can an awkward frame or weak abdominals set the stage for schizophrenia - or atleast an anxiety disorder. Perhaps an oversimplification. However, I think there are many cases involving elaborate existential suffering that can be traced back to a relatively small and highly specific physical discomfort. In the past I have not traced my existential angst back to the trivial and mundane. In fact I hoped that it might have an abstract, if not mystifying, origin. Upon reflection, years later, I am gradually becoming aware of a long list of concrete facts that are undeniably the foundation of enormous mental strife. I now possess a list of the precise physical causes beneath any DSM IV diagnosis I have ever received. The mental health establishment, for all its faults, has given me a more profound self-knowledge than would have been possible without such experiences. I feel I have a more thorough self-mastery than those whose circumstances have been more fortunate. 12 I don't think that one should be labeled as mentally ill unless an objective test can verify the presence of illness. Illness refers to something physical and demonstrable. It does not make much sense to talk of an illness as something mental. I think that mental illness is a term used to label those behaviors that are undesirable. Gambling and alcoholism are now considered to be illnesses, and there's absolutely no evidence that they are illnesses. More and more behaviors are becoming illnesses. By far the greater majority of those who see a psychiatrist have no real brain disorders. Those with real brain disorders, or signs of illness, belong to the domain of the neurologist. I don't know of any psychiatrists who conduct tests to determine the presence of an illness in a patient who is being diagnosed. Accordingly I do not believe that there are any types of anxiety disorders that warrant long-term bz treatment.
13 The medical model of mental illness has certainly created new problems in attempting to treat the ones that already exist for the patient. The bz withdrawal syndrome is but one example of a problem created by the medicalizing of life's problems. When bzs are pescribed, I think that very often the original problem is swept under the rug rather than dealt with. Whatever the original set of problems was is then compounded by all the complications that can arise from long-term use of bzs. The medical establishment and the mental health system now have a significant mess on their hands. - Not to mention the mess that those in withdrawal from various drugs may have to deal with-. Both the victims of the drugs and doctors and mental health professionals will have to confront the problem one way or another. I think the more it is swept under the rug, the worse it will become. Can they really get away with the medicalizing of mental health without it coming back to bite them? I don't know for sure, I suppose it is possible that they could. Bzs were prescribed to cover up problems. But now they are trying to cover up the fact that bzs are the problem. I would like to see the mental health profession and doctors confront the problem head on. I'm not against the taking of psychotropic drugs to cope with real life problems, that is for one to decide. I'm not against one seeing a mental health professional. These points are not the thrust of my argument. I'm skeptical about the idea of a non-physical "underlying condition" being unmasked while tapering from bzs. It seems that there are many who misinterpret the real problems in their lives as depression and anxiety (or any other mental illness) I think that most people (not all) who are depressed or anxious would be able to point to real life issues that are generating their mental distress. When it comes to purely physical problems, one should definitely check with a competent medical doctor to see if there is an underlying condition emerging upon withdrawal from bzs. However, here and elsewhere, I have seen people withdrawing from bzs encourged to have a suspected underlying "mental" condition evaluated by a mental health professional. The problem is that the idea of an "underlying condition" is used by mental health professionals to justify further treatment with psychotropic drugs. The diagnosis made by a medical doctor and a mental health professional are two entirely different things. When a mental health professional gives one a diagnosisof "bipolar", "shchizotypal", "GAD", "depression", etc. the validity of this diagnosis as it pertains to an actual biological condition is of no more significance than anyone else's opinion. That is the problem with having an "underlying condition" treated by a mental health professional. No objective and independently verifiable tests are performed by a mental health professional in the process of determining what your condition is. While withdrawing from bzs, there are a few approaches that might be wiser than visiting a mental health professional if you suspect the return of an "underlying condition". 1- go to a medical doctor or a neurologist and have the actual tests performed for GAD or bi-polar or whatever. This way you will know if you are truly mentally ill and what chemicals need to be balanced. 2-ask yourself what the actual life problems are that are causing mental distress. It may not be possible to solve all the problems, and it may require thinking differently. In some cases that is actually the solution to an underlying condition, thinking differently. One may indeed need to change in order to cope with coming off bzs. Very often (not always) an underlying condition, anxiety disorder, depression, etc. is simply the expression of a great difficulty in changing or thinking differently in some or all aspects of one's life. Mental health professionals do not deal with illness. Believing one has a mental illness in no way proves that one has an illness. I will try to clarify my position. I do not intend to imply that mental problems don't exist; clearly depression, anxiety, manic behavior, etc. all really exist. These are psychological and social problems until proven otherwise. There are people who are clearly psychotic and delusional. In no way does this imply an illness. Definitely not a literal physical illness, because psychiatrists do not have any tests to prove this. Mental "illness" is a metaphor for those thoughts, behaviors, moods, which are undesirable. The mental health profession would want you to believe that people are walking around with real mental illneses. This is an oxymoron. An illness is a physical malfunction. Thoughts and behaviors cannot be illnesses. One cannot literally be mentally "ill". Even a bona fide brain disorder is not mental, it is a purely physical phenomenon. A brain disorder may manifest itself as mental disorder. My position is that the existence of illness has never been demonstrated as the cause of any of the alleged "illnesses" in the Diagnostic and Statistics manual used by psychiatrists. Psychiatrists do not perform independently verifiable tests to determine if someone has a mental illness. A psychiatrist's diagnosis is an opinion about your behavior and state of distress, it has nothing to do with illness. I think that if there are illnesses that are mental, these should be verified by neurologists and treated accordingly. If I suspected I had a mental illness, I would go to a neurologist and not a mental health professional. If one suffers profoundly and one has hallucinations and cannot fit into society this is not a literal illness. It might be considered a metaphorical "illness". With all of the images they have of the brain's of mentally ill people, and all of the studies they have done linking one neurotrasmitter to this or that feeling or behavior, and whatever else is supposed to prove mental illness, I do not see one shred of evidence for mental illness. If I had no experience with this time consuming withdrawal syndrome produced by bzs, perhaps I would'nt be so critical of the mental health profession. I would'nt have thought about it a whole lot. I think the mental health profession deserves the criticism. They have produced a LOT of suffering, and now they want to deny it.
There is no point in life. That's the beauty of it. It's just a bunch of random shit and we are all its random accidents. And we keep having to go to the bathroom all the time. That's what's so amusing about life; watching so many people desparately try to find so many purposes in an exercise in pure bullshit. Human beings love to look for some deeper meaning in life because it makes them think they're important and sanctified in some way. But the bottom line is, each one of us is less than a penny's worth of hydrogen, oxygen and carbon. We humans are an embarrassing, flawed species and there is no hope for us and we will never amount to anything. So enjoy the meaninglessness of it all. I'm quite the optimist, aren't I?
Optimist indeed! I agree we spend way too much time trying to find meaning in life, but I disagree that it has no meaning. I look for meaning, not to waste my time, but the more I understand about the nature of reality the more I appreciate the amazing nature of whats going on here. Perhaps we are a penny's worth of elements, but for some unknown reason those elements have combined into a sentient being which combined with a bunch of other sentient beings, holds the keys to the possible destruction of a planet. I take comfort in some unknowable purpose. The fact that there is purpose is reason enough for me. What is the purpose? An egotisitical question at the least. Did fish ask the purpose before dragging themselves to land?
hi , this is like my first post on this forum ... uhh... although i'm only 15 yrs old .. and i hav crappy spelling... i think i understand life more then most 15 yrs old ... for the past few months ... i've had 4 friends who wanted to commit suecide... all of them wanted to die cuz they saw no point in life... well.. there is a point in life .. and it was not to seek knowladge and build nukes , tvs , computers , robots , weapons of mass destruction ... i'm not sure what you'r point of life is since everyone will have a different point of life... but alot of teenagers jsut want to get laid ... get high ... and those are jsut for them to get excitement... like playing videogames... and for those kids who have no interest or are bored in games.. and don't like crack "not that i do drugs.." i guss they are the ones most likely to kill them self ... stupid fools .. thats what i think anyways... depression is only caused by oneself ... no one can make you depressed if you arn't... there is always something good after something bad happens... just like 9/11 "please don't hate me for saying this.." although many people died and stuff... it brought many american back together and reminded them who they were after ... "although i hate americans ... no offence" many bad things have happened to my life.. i used to believe in god too... but then i noticed how so many people worship god for help .. and power to overcome something. .. i feel that , that is an act of cowardness... so i stopped worshiping god.. not because i don't beleave in him/her ... i know that there are religous people in this world that don't use god as a tool .. but actually worships him/her and stuff... but i'm kinda too lazy to be one of those people .. i often like to be by my self ... i thought to my self many times why i am alive ... it is pretty point less.. if you suck .. u live in the streets and die .. if you are successful , you get rich and die.. either ways you die ... but the world is so big ... and i doubt you've been and seen everything in the world .. in one of those places in the world .. perphaps you will find "your" point in life ... so don't die .. if it is destiny , then you will find that point in your life one day..
the point of anyone's life is pretty much what that individual person chooses to make it. how much you or i accomplesh toward that point may depend on many things, circumstantial and otherwise. but this is one of those things that we do get to choose. that it isn't cast into stone and set there before us. =^^= .../\...
I think life is just an adventure and we have to make the most of it. If you are miserable I think it is a sign that you gotta try somethin new. Never know what's waiting around the next corner...