What is False Flag terrorism?

I used to think that way...about 15 years ago. Luckily, unlike some others...I grew...I evolved.

 

That's the thing though, like most conspiracy theorists you are always arrogantly telling people not to be "sheeple" or "go with the herd".

Yet where in the official account of 911 does it say anything about the hijackers living in caves? It doesn't say that anywhere, because they didn't live in caves. And do you always say the hijackers had box cutters but never mention that they also claimed to have bombs?

The explanation is simple. The reason you sneer about box cutters and people living in caves is because that's what the conspiracy websites tell you to think. You memorise and repeat. The conspiracy websites tell you what the official story is and then they "debunk" it. But because you've never done any real reasearch you will never figure out you are getting conned.

You are a dime a dozen gullible fool. And worse than most if you still believe anything that crackpot Griffin says.

 

Anything you say, shill...

There are just too many of us now. To illustrate this point, check out www.ae911truth.org and especially www.patriotsquestion911.org

 

No, they didn't live in caves, but this is the image they tried to present of bin Laden, who we are told was behind the alleged hijackers.

No, the hijackers just attended strip clubs and had a penchant for snorting cocaine. (At least the so-called "ringleader," Mohammed Atta, did.) How typical of fundamentalist Muslim extremists willing to fly planes into buildings for Allah.

 

Oh, this is nothing new. People with this kind of attitude are a dime a dozen on line. Quite common and all have the same line. They collectively choose to ignore what is happening in the world around them and will stand by their shallow opinions and bad attitudes until the bitter end. They do not care about "facts and figures" unless they provided them themselves to back up THEIR argument. And yes, you are right, they will NEVER change their opinions. They would say the sky is cloudy even if it were blue as can be, and argue the point into infinity, but not intelligently. Instead they spend a large amount of time making juvenile insults to cover for their lack of knowledge. I have a local subversive blog-site and I spend a good bit of time during the bad weather season on different forums as well. I see this type of reaction all the time. But the ACTUAL percentage of people who tend to behave that way is very low compared to those who actually wish to discuss our common problems. So low as to stick out like a sore thumb. But I swear they must all be programmed by the same robots because they all act just alike.

I will point out again that NOTHING can be solved, no problems worked out, no constructive discussion, when you have people cluttering up the place with insults and "Elvis" comments... Perhaps THAT is the goal. Keeping people from discussing real issues by sidetracking the conversation into a flaming match. Some people really just need to grow up.

 

pepik you hit the nail right on the head. If any thing they are the heard of cattle that belive any thing that crazy ass authors tell them to or the false facts they put on conspiracy websites. please ExposeTheTruth show me this scientific poll where 1/3 of the US population think the way you do ? There is not one. Sorry my fault there might be a fake one on some nutty Web site thats about all. Come on people wake up stop believing stupid shit that people make up just for a good conversation piece. The facts supporting your arguments are Comical. It is just so far out there it makes me laugh my ass off. please people for you own good You can not like Bush and the war on Terror but please don't try to push this argument if any thing it will only make you look crazy. There are so many things that went wrong on 911 that the goverment did that makes me angry. But killing its own citizens was not one !!! Also thanks for the good laugh ExposeTheTruth saying there are to many of you now. You only validated my point buy giving us links to conspiracy Theory Web sites. 99% of the people going to them go get a good laugh and like to read how crazy some people's thoughts are its like a good Tom Clancy Novel for them.Buy the way people also love to go to Web sites all the time about Alien Abductions and The loch ness monster I bet those groups are growing all the time also !!!



Great Point Piney about the fire of the Reichstag Building.Hitler was afraid that Communism would become more powerful with the German people then his fascist state, So he had the SS set a fire to the Reichstag Building and then said it was the Communist trying to undermine the state. The people of Germany turned against the communist in Germany and Hitler looked like the saviour of the German people.

 

Wow, who would have thought you could come up with such a brilliant comeback.

You don't need to be an architect or engineer to join that circus. You can sign up as Donald Duck and claim to have a Nobel prize in Architecture. And there is no serious science on the website at all.

Yes, they question. I question. But what do they believe? Do they believe the Illuminati planted super nano-thermite bombs in WTC7 and the NYFD was part of the plot? Is Wesley Clark a troofer? Are Russian generals "patriots" questioning 911? No, but who cares? If anyone questions anything, they get their sorry faces slapped onto this crackpot website.

Bin Laden wasn't living in a cave either. You are the last person who should be objecting, you always use this "in a cave" crap. In fact I can guarantee you will use it again. Getting busted in a lie has never stopped you from repeating it.

According to one stripper witness who later retracted her testimony. My goodness, a stripper who lies... what next?

Well Rat, maybe your definition of a faithful Muslim is one who commits mass murder of civilians. It certainly isn't my definition, and you'll find a lot of Islamic scholars who would be quite deeply offended that you would suggest that mass murder is a sign of Muslim piety, but then again you are a fan of disgusting racist cranks like Jerome Corsi who thinks that "ragheads are boy-bumpers" and that "Islam is a worthless, dangerous, satanic religion".

 

Precisely. It's called "counter-intelligence" and has been employed by U.S. federal agencies at least since the 50s at the rise of the Civil Rights (black liberation) movement. It even happens now within the 9/11 truth movement. There are actually those who claim to be truth activists who are openly spreading disinformation with outrageous BS such as the idea that "no planes hit the WTC, it was all TV image-fakery". Or "Space beams" taking down the towers. This is all constructed by agencies who are attempting to hide the unraveling truth about what took place on that treacherous day.

 

Shoc, your ignorance would be hilarious if it wasn't so dangerous. But sure. I'd be happy to begin the leg-work for you since you are too lazy to do it for yourself.

(CNN poll) http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041111195501242

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1354

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=9%2F11+poll

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/11/911.poll/index.html

(from 2004) http://www.zogby.com/search/ReadNews.dbm?ID=855

http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll

Google is a wonderful thing. You should check it out when you get some time.

Your response (if any)?

 

But who said this, and what is it implying? That aliens brought down the towers? No.

"Space beams" was actually concocted by Alex Jones to discredit anyone who talks about directed-energy weapons (ground or space-based).

 

Pressed Rat, get out of my life.

 

But why can't you back up your claims? You should be held just as accountable as those defending the 19 hijackers conspiracy theory.

 

Pressed Rat, get out of my life and stop hijacking my thread.

 

Nobody is hijacking your thread. This is an open discussion.

 

And I shan't allow you to grab hold of the steering wheel. Make your own thread.

 

Two things I find most entertaining about conspiracy theorists is that they are lazy and gullible. You are only giving us the polls that the conspiracy websites tell you to link to.

(CNN poll) http://www.911truth.org/article.php...041111195501242 - This is an online poll. It has no statistical signficance. Conspiracy fanboys spike these polls all the time.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1354 - This poll was carried out by conspiracy theorists and still came up with 4.6% who believe 911 was a flase flag op. Read your links before you throw them at me if you don't want to look like a fool.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=9%2F11+poll - this is a google search, bringing up the same polls

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09...poll/index.html This poll does not say 911 was a conspiracy

(from 2004) http://www.zogby.com/search/ReadNews.dbm?ID=855 - Another 911truth poll, but older. Again, it rejects MIHOP.

http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll Combines LIHOP and MIHOP into one answer, so can't be compared with other polls.

Your response (if any)? Why don't you try thinking instead of memorising what you read on conspiracy websites?

 

The bottom line is none of these groups are growing or talked about in the American public.You never hear people bull shiting about this crap buy the water cooler at work or in front of a corner store. If anythig they would talk about how crazy this sounds and what a good laugh they got from reading it. The only people I ever hear talking about this crap is people on far far left web sites and conspiracy theorist sights who will say or do anything to make Bush look like a War mongrel and evil leader. like I said 75% of people who say they Belive this really don't they know the truth deep down. They love to be different and need to feel a sence of belonging to something, or they think its a great way to make our Goveremnt look bad !

 

You're an idiot if you think that nobody "in the American public" talks about this. There have been 9/11 truth conferences and other events NATIONALLY televised on C-SPAN. Activsts have been interviewed on CNN, MSNBC, and FOX. What the hell are you spewing? Why do you insist on throwing out these wild speculations as though they are facts? The reason you don't hear about these things near the corner store is because 1) "critical mass" hasn't yet been reached due to the COVER-UP, and 2) people are still too afraid of brainwashed idiots like yourself who might very well knock their teeth out for excercising their 1st Amendment Right.

Your pseudo psycho-analytical babble is just that: babble. For the sole purpose of self-preserving your current world view. You know NOTHING about the mind-frame of people who engage in critical thinking. Do not pretend to think you know the 1st thing about me. You, on the other hand ARE 1-dimensional, as you demonstrate with each of your replies.

What do you have to say of the 9/11 victim's family members who are calling for a new investigation into 9/11? What kind of fake-psychological drivel do you have for them, AND would you have the balls to say it to their faces?
Next time you reply, please come at me with an argument that has some basis in substance, and not adolescent jabs and side-stepping (and outright falsehoods presented as concrete fact).

And while you're at it, look this up when you have a chance: cognitive dissonance. You suffer from it greatly.

Mr. Pepik, why do you keep on using the term "conspiracy" in that stigmatized one-sided fashion? (because you were conditioned to, obviously)Unless 9/11 was planned and carried out by one single individual, the event was a conspiracy no matter how you look at it. The matter at hand is WHO was behind it. When you can use the word in its real context, then you'll be worthy of engaging in the adult version of "info-wars".

 

Dude your facts and statements are total lies and bullshit you get from wacko web sites and nutty authors. Sure there are people calling for new 911 studies but none of those studies have shit to do with your crazy conspiracy theories that our goverment had a helping hand in the attacks. I never ounce heard this crap brought up on any cable news channel never. Please the next time its on let me know. I mean something like that on the news would make Michael Moores crazy claims and lies look like the word of GOD. I really hope your just a person who likes to be different and hates the U.S and trys every thing to make them look bad but you really don't believe this far out crap you say. ? If you really believe this stuff I do feel for you man. I can just imagine some of the other shit you believe ?I can see what you are like now. I bet you are one of those people who think the CIA is trying to tap into your mind from satellites in space .You probably think that every phone is taped you talk on. That hidden cameras are watching you all the time where ever you go.That your Neihbors are all goverment agents trying to stop you from spreading the word of the real 911. It would not surprise me at all if you believed some of that shit. The only thing that thoughts like yours are good for is a good movie or a show like the X-Files thats about all.

also about 9/10 of all 911 famalies support the War on Terror !!! only a select hand full that the far left love to use call for a new studies. Buy the way what happend to that nut that the Far left loved to parade in front of cameras Cindy Sheehan ?

 

9/11 is false flag terrorism.

Any assault carried out by a group pretending to be another group, for example the 'powers that be' staging 9/11 and blaming it on the evil terrorists.