What is Crystal Meth like?

meth is fucking made with "poison" but you need to think a little bit....whats table salt, sodium and chlorine, chlorine gas can kill when inhaled and sodium blows up in water...moral of story is that 2 bad things chemically combined dont have the same charecteristics as they do seperatley....its basic chemistry
although i am in no way stating that meth is not highly neurotoxic...

 

A heavy meth user will still be around and suffering long after the all heroin addicts are dead.

It is fairly easy to kill yourself by accident with Herion. Death is not an uncommon result of heroin OD for two reasons: One, the drug dulls one's awareness of self AND supresses involuntary breathing - you don't know or care you aren't breathing. Two, the fatal dose and recreational dose are dangerously close.

Heroin addiction is 90% physiological. Meth addiction is 90% psychological. This simple fact means that when the crystal runs out, the the meth user feels dull and slow and craves the clarity of thought and energy from the drug. When the heroin runs out, clarity of any sort is lost and the craving is primal - anything to make the torture stop.

Maybe Meth is worse because it is more insidious - it is hard to see the social decay because it does improve short term performance. It rarely follows a fatal course - the drug is fairly safe compared to heroin, alocohol, and cocaine (coke is far more likely to cause sudden cardiac deaths)

 

All drugs can be bad and dealdy some have a higher average then others, but I have to say I have never been around meth or seen what it does first hand to a addict who is on it so I can not comment on meth. But from the different types of drug addicts I have been around threw the years I would have to say Crack is buy far the worst drug one can be addicted to. Crack brings a addict down so fucking fast. Addicts will go threw there whole bank account and savings in no time and pawn of every thing they own. sometimes within weeks after they get hooked on that shit they are almost broke. Its nothing for a Crack addict to smoke up $500 to $1000 worth of Rocks in a 24 day. You could never ever do that much Herion in one day never and with Herion and opiates atleast you are nice and high for hours. Crack shit you are luckey if the high ounce you are really addicted to it last 5 Minutees and then you have to take another hit, To me thats why Crack is so bad you just want more and more becasue the high is so short lived. A addict will chase that high for days if not weeks at a time and spend so much dam money doing it. And anoter thing Crack addicts seem to move to doing crime and stealing so much faster then any other kind of drug addicts. It is buy far the #1 drug of abuse hear in then North East and buy far is the #1 drug that has the most drug related crime. I have seen alot of people first hand much more then any other drug totaly ruin there lifes becasue they are addicted to crack and like I said it happens so dam fast. I am just so dam glad the Crack high was never my cup of Tea,I liked to take a few hits of it every now and then but I never got addicted to it and really never enjoyed it that much eather. Its kind of sick but its true I am happy I was more of a opiate/Herion Addict to be honest how crazy that sounds. I am almost certain if it was Crack I was hooked on real bad in my late teens threw my mid 20's I would proably be in prison or homeless right now. Now I am not saying that can not happen with a Herion addict becasue it can real real quick but it usally happens with crack alot quicker.

 

heroin addiction is not 90% psychological...its one of the WORST things you can physically withdraw from..ppl keep doing heroin just to avoid the withdrawls.....

 

Dude, he said physiological, and pretty much his entire post agrees with yours.

And there's meth around Northern Virginia, and I'm about 20 mins from Washington DC. So it's making its way north.

 

wow i didnt even read your post....i just saw 90% psychological for meth right next to heroin which read 90% and started with the same first 4 letters and just posted...my bad kudo...i completley agree with everything you said...thanks for pointing that out person above me...(problem is most of us posting in these forms are fucked up most of the time they post....)

 

yea ive have 2 friends in jail for armed robbery from smoking crack.....but seriousley i dont think that shit is as prevalant in the west...and if it was they wouldnt all be bitching about meth as much as they are, theyd be bitching about crack and dope also....but i read somewhere that every year 1% of heroin addicts fatally od...so in ten years 100,000 of 1,000,000 dope fiends will die.....i dont think crack or meth is as bad as that from that point of view.

 

good post

 

Actually, meth is not physically addictive like opiates, it's just extremely psychologically addictive, causing such a rush in dopamine that it makes regular life activities seem utterly boring and useless, and even an inability to feel happiness in some users. You feel so much more "clear-headed" and efficient on meth that it seems almost harmless. What starts as a weekend thing inevitably turns to an every day thing as tolerance builds, ruining your brain, body, career and bank account. Meth brains show changes similar to those in Parkinson's disease even after only ONE use, and movement problems caused by meth may not go away upon stopping. It's a mind fuck. Do it enough and schizophrenic-like paranoia and hallucinations WILL occur, due in large part to severe sleep deprivation.

The real danger lies not in accidental overdose like with heroin, but with hopeless addiction, food and sleep deprivation, violent/suicidal acts (Hitler was a meth addict), homelessness, depression, heart/cardiovascular damage, osteoporosis, movement disorders, prison, risky sexual acts caused by ravenous desire for sex (90% of all new gay male HIV infection cases blame meth for causing lapses in judgment they'd never had before--some reporting days and even WEEKS-LONG sexual marathons), and basic mental deterioration to the point of insanity, which can take years to recover from...if you recover at all.

(I'm from Oklahoma and read lots on meth because it frightens and therefore fascinates me, lol.)

 

isnt dopamine phisiccly addictive making meth indirectly phisicly addicitive? or is dopamine phycologicly addicitive aswell

 

Yeah me to , its pretty bad in these small towns... its funny cause i can go out in a certain part of my town and all the tweakers are gathered up lol

 

dont even try the shit.
ive seen what it does to ppl

 

I don't think I've ever seen a meth head in person but I've seen plenty of people jammed or cracked out of their minds. It's sad to watch.

It's even sadder to imagine that something even deadlier could be on it's way to the East Coast. I have no interest in it. As tempting as it is to try it, the image of meth mouth pops into my mind which stops the temptation in it's tracks.

Although meth addicts might not die as quickly as dope addicts, they might as well be dead because they already look it.

 

The reason that meth addicts are alive longer than dope addicts is because dope addicts die, while meth, no OD.
You can go on and on for days when you're on meth.

But as for it being as bad as crack-cocaine, I'd say not. Crack users become addicted the first time they try it (usually its teenage to early 20s cokeheads who run out of coke and buy crack thinking its a substitute). I have never tried crack before and never will, but from living in Providence, Rhode Island, I have witnessed A LOT of crackheads and them doing crackheaded deeds.

I used to smoke meth myself. I started off with speed pills first, then I eventually moved to meth. I'd say its fucking great, the high. You talk a lot as if you were on E, but without the roll. I know a lot of models here that use meth a lot (some addicted), and a lot of them actually take care of themselves a lot so that you just think they turned vegan or went on a huge diet.

I know its bad, but I wouldnt say its as bad as a lot of people say it is. I doubt you could get addicted to meth the first time you try it, but then again, when it comes to drugs ppl love saying "you will get addicted the first time you try it." Even though I dont smoke it everyday anymore, I still do it from time to time if I know the meth will help me in that situation (cram studying, packing bags, etc).

And also, look at a crackhead after two years of use. it takes tweakers 10 years of addiction to look like that

 

i tried crack to see what the big deal was and it was pussy, you feel wide wide awake wupty doo. Meth is worse cause you can be on a little and be sitting down and sweating feeling like your in a fight, its stronger.

 

Seriously crack is that shitty? I never tried it, I always just thought of it being some kind of altered coke high or smth.

But then again jus seein the bums in Providence, RI has made me want to stay away from crack forever...

but then again if you binged meth for two weeks straight and still not addicted, could you try crack for the first time and not get addicted? But then again I guess I probably wont feel anythign at all since I'll be expecting a lot more than just a 5 minute high or smth.

 

Dude. You dont become addicted to crack the first time you try it, lmfao.

I liked being high on crack. I didnt like coming down. I definitely was not addicted the first time I tried it, and I wasnt addicted to it after I did it for a whole month and then got tired of it and never did it again. I dont really believe you can get "addicted" to certain drugs, I mean..not in a physical sense.

Ive been on heroin for ....three years and there aint shit that can be compared to it as far as addiction goes.

 

I guess that its just how much control you have over yourself to see if addiction comes or not.

I person with a strong mindstance will think hard and research a drug before experimenting it for the first time, and they be sure to do it in an environment that they are comfortable with. This is the person that doesnt get addicted.

The person that gets addicted is the one who does just about any drug that pops up in front of them.

well thats my theory anyways.

But I guess for every herion user that shoots up and is able to avoid addiction, theres the guy who tweaks for two whole weeks (with around 5 nights of sleep) and is still not addicted. That guy is me.

 

Fucking incredible.

 

man... i tried meth one time... ive never been so scared in my life... for like 2 days strate all i could think about was when will this shit stop!!!!!!! i hated it i felt like my whole body was about to be ripped apart and i was seeing crazy shit and was so paranoid i was gonna be caught...