What If You Could Start A New Country Up?

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  1. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Sounds aight to me man. :D
     
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  2. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    What better example than the mythical African nation of Wakanda from the movie Black Panther.

    The most technologically advanced society in the world. Wakanda is enriched by "vibranium," a mineral deposited by a meteorite crash.
     
  3. Ged

    Ged Tits and Thigh Man.

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    Has a three day week. Work time is balanced with leisure time. Just because everything is free doesn't mean people don't want occupations. People don't take a burdensome excess of material product because people got over over-zealous guarding of possessions. Most goods are held in common but of course people have their own personal private stuff. When you can take anything you want, three Ferraris for example, you soon realize how ridiculous this is. Essential chores such as rubbish collection and civic maintenance are shared out amongst those physically fit according to a rota. Nobody has to suffer the indignity of their identity being defined as 'menial labourer' or 'service personnel'. People serve each other and serve themselves. This society has solved all political and economic problems. Politics and economics are no longer a problem or issue that people concern themselves with. As sciences politics and economics operate as a perfected timeless model. It is the stage beyond Socialism and Communism. There was no violent revolution and was simply evolved from something which was truly beautiful and natural. There were some sacrifices involved but it was thought they were worth it for the benefit of the greater good.
     
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    All capsicum starts out green, red and yellow are just different stages of ripeness

    I don't mind both pineapple and capsicum in that chicken with cashew nuts dish, hoi sin sauce I think it is
     
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  5. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    This thread is making me hungry
     
  6. Meliai

    Meliai Banned

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    These pretzels are making me thirsty
     
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  7. Ged

    Ged Tits and Thigh Man.

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    Do it for England
     
  8. Meliai

    Meliai Banned

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    Too late, i've conquered England and will now establish my country on its land
     
  9. Ged

    Ged Tits and Thigh Man.

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  10. Ged

    Ged Tits and Thigh Man.

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    Guess what. Andromeda Heights had Nukes.
     
  11. Ged

    Ged Tits and Thigh Man.

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    It's so lonely here in the bunker. There's just me and a thousand cans of macaroni cheese.
     
  12. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    narrow gauge railways instead of any pavement wider then a sidewalk or a bike path.
    and a culture that loves both logic and imagination instead of ever hating either.

    those are the two basic main things.

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    people not telling each other what to pretend,
    nor what kind of houses they can build and live in,
    as long as they're far enough apart for someone else to walk between without disturbing either.

    between the internet and the little trains, cities wouldn't really be needed and would be very rare.
    the largest towns, would be the capital, if it even had one, the university(s), and the space port.

    and of course it would be almost completely mountainous and densely forested.
     
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  13. You gonna bring some good ole freedom eh
     
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  14. Meliai

    Meliai Banned

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    Of course.

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  16. Noserider

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    I would start with a small landmass, because I think smaller geography makes for a stronger centralized culture. I'd want a country that reflects the Jeffersonian ideal: small government and self-sufficiency. Maybe I'm being naive and idealistic, but I think the reason our free market can't regulate itself the way Libertarians dream of is because of culture. In America, we're almost indoctrinated into irresponsible consumerism. Hunt for the best bargain, the best value, and leave it at that. I'd rather cultivate a consumer mindset of hunting out the best business practices. Therefore, consumers would, on principle, reject, say, bakeries that refused to make wedding cakes for gay couples, businesses who outsource work overseas, retail stores that rely on child labor, etc. Maybe that's a unicorn, but that's what I'd envision: responsible consumer markets driven by morals instead frugality. Couple that with a heavy reliance on using one's own private property for sustenance and we're getting somewhere. There would be no 2,000 sq ft homes on two acres of ornamental shrubbery, gardens and a football field of a lawn. In my country, people would have vegetable gardens, and, ideally, a climate good enough to grow food year round. Storage sheds full of excess would be replaced by chicken coops. Imagine a country where people reject mindless consumerism and produce a bit of their own food. It would be beautiful. Packaging would also be frowned upon. I'm becoming convinced that packaging is a scam perpetuated by lobbyists for the cardboard and plastic industries. Next time you go shopping, pay attention to the packaging of the items you buy and ask yourself, "how much of this is necessary?" Ever notice that single-serve items are sold inside other containers? Here's an example:
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    There are 10 packets of juice mix in one box. Why? Why not just a bin full of loose packets or a box full of powder? Why is cereal both packaged inside a plastic bag and a cardboard box? Yeah, this shit would be outright OUTLAWED in Neoland.


    Which brings us to the big, bad, scary, G word. No, not gangsta, but close...government.

    Mandatory--fucking MANDATORY--civics and political science exams required in order to register to vote. My country would be a true democracy and not a republic. If we don't have representatives voting in "our" best interests, they the people better understand what they are voting for. Representatives will not be paid. There will be no such thing as a career politician. And representatives do not vote on anything, but rather, act as a liaison between the people and the president. "Madam President (it's my country; fuck off) the people have decided they support marijuana legalization." BAM. It becomes law. Without career politicians and representatives, lobbying goes out the window. The elite have no more power than you or I. My marijuana example is kind of stupid, now that I think of it, because there are no drug laws in my country. People are free to put anything they want into their own bodies. BAM. No $20 billion a year on a war on drugs. Next?

    Student loans...BANNED. No more banks inflating the cost of tuition. If you pay taxes, your kids can go to a public university. You're paying taxes; university is funded with tax dollars. Tuition has already been paid. Note, I'm no banning nor vilifying private schools here. Just pointing out that public schools are, well, public.

    Flat tax. This fluctuation in taxes is ridiculous. A set percentage of your income is taxed--and that's it. No such things as tax cuts or tax exemptions. If you earn a dollar, 10ยข goes to the price of admission into my civilized society. If you earn $100 million, $10 million goes to the house. Simple. Fair.
     
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  17. Meliai

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    ^we actually have pretty similar views on how capitalism should ideally function. I too would like an economic system driven by conscious consumerism.

    Also: look at you, being all socialist with your free higher education :p
     
  18. Noserider

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    It's not free. Public universities are funded with tax dollars. It would only be free if there were no taxes and no tuition. I don't like taxes. No one does, but I don't see how you can run a decent country without them. Way I see it, if you're paying for it, you should be able to use it.
     
  19. Noserider

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    So, America?

    EDIT: Oh wait...never mind. You said free.

    Commie... ;)
     
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  20. Meliai

    Meliai Banned

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    You know what I mean. I know its not free. Nothing is free yo
     

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