What if the a past civilazation obliterated themselves?

interesting stuff for sure.

A lot of it makes me think one of two things;
1) Humans have been around and technologically advanced for a lot longer than we ever thought
2) Our methodology for dating ancient stuff is waaaayyy off.

If we look into what we now consider ancient texts, the last mass extinction generally recorded around the world was the flood.

Without gatting into some ridiculous debate about the Bible and existence of God, blah,blah,blah, just consider it as a possible historical record sans the supernatural.

One thing I always had a kind of gut feeling about the whole biblical record is the intimation that there was at the time a huge disparity between wealth and poverty, much more exaggerated than today's.
What if that disparity extended beyond the economic to the cultural, technological, and scientific areas of the human civilization at the time.
I could envision a world of highly technologically advanced civilizations alongside stone age ones.

As thedope mentioned, we see it today, but I'm thinking an even greater gap and disparity.
Kinda like the movie Zardoz.

Personally I do think man has risen to advances equal to and surpassing our current ones, and being wiped out, but my money is on natural vs man-made causes for these wipeouts.

There are asteroids and comets that make regular visits to the neighborhood. I'm gonna bet that there is some nasty SOB orbiting around that comes by every so often and bitch-slaps the planet hard.


The gun is good.
The penis is evil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOROvO2fxTc"]Zardoz Speaks - YouTube

 

Rome was pretty damned advanced, and they destroyed themselves in exactly the same fashion that we are currently destroying ourselves. Ports filled in with silt from erosion, Consolidation of all wealth at the top, Imperialism.

I heard someone say once that evertime (human) history repeats itself, it comes at an exponential increasing cost.

 

there is one large difference between humans and other animals in my opinion. Its something they call the EGO. Its what causes all the pain, fear, and greed in our lives and society. If we didn't have it, we wouldn't have all the nice/convenient things we love so much. We wouldn't have vacation spots, computers, grocery stores... etc. These are things that result from greed. The need for more, the ego..its an evil thing but completely necessary at the same time to help us evolve as a creature.

On the OP topic, I think is totally possible. I don't think we quite realize how old this earth really is and how much disaster its been through. I've heard that Antarctica wasn't always situated on the pole....but that it once wasn't frozen and had life on it.

I think there is a lot of information that isn't leaked to the public and its possible we just don't have enough evidence to say so. There are so many scientists out there that say this is possible....but so many other scientists that would never admit that their life's work is a wash because of new information. There is a reason our knowledge develops over time....because we really don't know everything and we wont get to the point where we know everything. There is always something we thought was one way and then discovered it wasn't.

sites like Tiahuanaco or Manchu Picchu and the great pyramids are usually dated according to organic materials found around the site. Its hard to date structures according to rocks because they could be millions of years old. So there's not telling how old these REALLY are.

 

Well there is one major difference that hastened the end of the Roman Empire that modern man doesn't have.
We don't eat, drink, cook, and store things we consume in lead or pewter containers or use pewter utensils. We also don't put powdered lead in our wine to sweeten it or use it as foundation type makeup.

I have read a few places that the over all population was suffering from varying degrees of lead poisoning, with the wealthy being the worst effected, and that was one factor that played a role in Rome's demise.

 

Maybe not lead and pewter, although we were until just a few decades ago, now we use things like chlorine, benzene, glyphosate, fluoride, and so many agricultural and other chemicals I doubt I could list them all here.

Just looking at the labels on food containers makes me ill.

 

Some of the things on that page have been debunked, but the majority of them nobody can figure out any logical explanation other than "we've done this all before" and I firmly believe that we have...


Several times.


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In Star Signs, Linda Goodman says this is what happened to Atlantis.

 

Very interesting question, MindCB

Like others have said before in this thread, this is not a new idea. However after skimming through this thread im surprised that the mars theory wasn't mentioned.

The Mars theory is what some (very few, I suppose) astrophysicists and cosmologists believe. The basis of this theory is that because there is water and most of the essential things to sustain life on mars, that possibly our great ancestors are actually martians. Essentially over time mars was the first planet in the solar system to sustain life, but the civilization failed , and over millions, if not billions of years, miniscule tattered remains of life forms from mars migrated to earth, only to evolve into our species now the homo-sapiens.

A strange theory, one that I don't quite believe in, but nonetheless very interesting.

 

This theory sometimes includes the asteroid belt was once a planet that was destroyed. It's remnants migrated to Earth and/or Mars. (And then to earth...)

 

Hmmm. Actually, I think that would explain an awful lot.

 

Quite possible that if the sun cools, Venus could be the next stomping ground...



If we don't obliterate this one first.

 

No chance of that happening though.. Supposedly as the sun "cools" it expands, and in that expansion, Venus would become the new Mercury....

Although, they do say there is proof that life exists on Venus now... How in some of those photos they had these triangular shapes that moved between photos... Sort of like Stingrays they said....

Certainly interesting... Although we won't ever find out.. Venus is one inhospitable mother f'er....

:afro:

 

Okay... but there's still that point about us obliterating the earth, or at least making it inhospitable for humans...


I always figured there would be life on Venus... even if it's just some form of vegetation.

 

somethin's a brewin!

 

You guys are talking about theories first introduced by Immanuel Velikovsky;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanuel_Velikovsky

Generally not accepted by main stream scientific peers, his theories do have some rather intriguing, sound ideas but also some pretty far-out crazy stuff.

 

Some of his stuff is sound... However, some of it.. Like the planets moving out of alignment, and into alignment and stuff.. That sounds kind of far fetched.. However, Neptune and Pluto have an odd relationship on orbits..

So, his theory is that these catastrophes happen all throughout recorded history, however, they are on a cycle of some sort be it 26,000, 3,000, or 2,000 years or whatever...

He might have something.. However, the "Blue Kachina" isn't really a planet, it was described as a star (comet)?

And really if this sort of thing was cyclical, and it was bound to happen again soon, don't you think we would have noticed something by now with all our fancy technology? I mean, THEY did it with the naked eye? Or weith the warnings from aliens, and we're just not worth saving anymore maybe...

Interesting thoughts...

And as to life on Venus... I've seen the photos, they are pretty blurred.. I think it's interesting that they were discounted so quickly though...

:afro:

 

The way this thread is going...it should be in the conspiracy forum.

venus is believable considering some people say there have been people living on the moon since the 70's.

 

Anything is possible... Crazy world we live in :afro:

 

sho nuff

 

NASA has even considered Mercury for habitating. In fact, they have looked at every planet AND nearly every moon.