What If Life Cost Money To Live For?

How much loot is your life worth, what is the price to live on earth?
How much would you pay to live another day? Or is that just a waste as some would say?
Can you afford to have a child? You're playing with your life when you spending wild
Would you pay top dollar to live another year or would leave it all behind for the folks you care for?

How about some breath? Is that a reasonable cost? Do I get a few freebies for the time I lost?
Do I get a discount for when I'm sick and will it cost any less if my life is shit?
When you see a motherfucker who's old and healthy you know that fool is living gold and wealthy.
If I'm in a coma, will I get refund? Nope, instead I'd be cussed and shunned. Cussed and shunned.

 

Is that a german folk song?

 

It rhymes so it could be a poem or a Deutschland ditty


Hotwater

 

You mean it doesn't?

 

Economists do measure the value people place on their own life based on what their willing to pay for healthcare and insurance policies.

 

No, it is not a folk song. :rofl:


It's off another song, and they always make me think about it. :d

Like if Death showed up right now, boom! Pay up of die... Everyday... How much do you think it's worth? $25 a day?

 

I have life insurance, so I wouldn't pay more than 5 cents a day.

 

Money is completely artificial and means nothing in the grand scheme of things, yet people's lives seem to revolve around it. I am sure the tribal peoples of the world (those that are left) live much more fulfilling lives than anyone who's born into a system of debt slavery yet believes they're free because they can buy trinkets made in China.

 

Have you ever seen real poverty? I've yet to meet the person who lived a subsistence lifestyle that spoke highly of it.

 

You obviously don't know the difference between poverty and the way indigenous people have lived for thousands of years, who don't even know what money is. Not surprising.

But aside from that, saying that everyone who lives in poverty is unhappy is like saying that everyone who is rich is happy, when in fact many times the opposite is true.

What you consider a "subsistence lifestyle" might not necessarily be perceived the same way by a person with different values.

 

You're such a character. I get it - you have some romanticized, Rousseau-based idea about the "noble savage". By almost every metric, they were definitely poor.

In the era before agriculture (ie: hunter gatherers), GDP per capita is estimated to $1.19 a day. Hint - that is below what the UNDP considers "extreme poverty". After the agricultural revolution, they estimate it at about $1.25-$1.70 until the 1700s.

Look at the world's average height until modern history - they were short. The average height for a man was about 5'. We're taller now, not because of evolution but because we don't suffer from constant food security.

Or we can use one of 50 other metrics that are well-documented.

 

I am not fucking talking about that. I am talking about indigenous people who live outside of so-called civilization, away from the man-made constructs of things like cities and economies.

And you're wrong about height, since archeology has proven that humans much taller than the humans of today existed in ancient times, so I guess what you're saying depends on how far back we're talking.

 

if life cost money, everyone would be at just as much risk, as if money, nations, villages, society, none of it, had ever been invented.
rather thoroughly defeating the whole and entire reason any of them had.
and, in fact, that's pretty much where we have gotten to, in the so called 'developed' world.
no one is ever secure under those circumstances, and precisely because of them, no one is.

nor can we, as a species, afford the huge inefficiencies and wastefulness, making everything have to be about money, has resulted in.
not at a population level that is pushing the envelope of the carrying capacity of nature's cycles of renewal.

 

Hunter-gatherers were taller than subsequent farmers but shorter than the average citizen of the developed world. Neolithic and Mesolithic skeletons from Europe average out at about 165-167 cm tall. Taller than the average Bangladeshi, shorter than the average Belgian. Longer ago than that and you are talking about genetics rather than nutrition.

But that is still one metric among many. Compare life expectancy, infant mortality, or proportion of people killed through violence. We live in an unprecedented era of safety and plenty - if you were lucky enough to be born in the developed world.

 

I doubt very seriously indigenous people are unhappy in the modern sense of the word but it would be equally as ignorant to assume their lifestyles are easy. Their whole existence is centered around survival, whereas in the modern world 40 hours a week of our existence centers around it, the rest of the time we can relax a little.

money basically came about as a collective effort to reduce the hardship of survival. Now its just hard in a different way, a depression and anxiety inducing kinda way. Yay, humanity.

 

It is kind of silly to assume height is only nutrition related

 

If you're comparing between groups, maybe. But one group over time? Not so much.

 

Yes by today's modern standards they would have been very unhappy, but they did not know any of these facts and therefore didn't know they were supposed to be unhappy. Only now that we know that human s can live past 50 are we able to be sad about those who don't, or worry if our health deteriorates too early. Only now that we know how tall people can get from having a very balanced diet can we know that they were eating inadequately.

It is ridiculous to say that because of our modern standards of health, indigenous peoples of the past must have been unhappy based on those facts.

As they say, ignorance is bliss.

 

$24! I'd pay $24 a day.