What has happened to mankind?

Puzzled I am indeed. What i would like to know is just how this all came to be. Just what switch was flipped politically/economically/culturally. It to me seems that this industrialized monster of a world we live in really all started to come together after the great depression. I was really hopeing someone on these forums might be able to talk some wisdom about the subject. But so far just some rants and living suggestions.

 

Payment and work are two different things in my book. But i understand what you mean.

 

The system is just a tool. It can be changed as easily as a mans mind. So in order to really solve the problem one must change the mind of man.

 

I understand what you mean too, even if my response made it seem like I don't.

Industrialized society bugs the hell out of me. It only gets worse the older you get lol.

The point I was really trying to get at is that its not hopeless. Start saving money now, start educating yourself on what it takes to live outside of the grid, and maybe by the time you're in your twenties you'll have the money, skills, and knowledge to follow your dream.

 

When did it begin? Well it's always been developing. the rich/poor classes have been in place for centuries. The industrial era, in the nineteenth century, brought about a strong sense of consumerism for the upper class, as the poor got poorer, and the rich got richer, to the point where they didn't know what to spend all their money on so they just started buying whatever. This then began to spread to the lower classes, particularly in the roaring 20's, as they began getting paid a bit more, and prices on things began to lower.

The great depression and world war 2 temporarily set off this consumer mindset, only to have it ferociously come back in the 1950's with the conservative consumerist era. Whites moved to the suburbs, building a fortress of isolation, while the breadmaking fathers would travel into the city to make money in order to buy all the things to build up their own "american dream," with the standard of living skyrocketing. omen stayed at home, men went to work, kids to school, and everyone was to simply live this picturesque scene until they died.

Of course, we all know this didn't happen, and the drone of it all led to the youth movements of the 1960's and 70's. However, our standard of living which we had built up all these years was expected to keep rising. As shown in your frustration, that means we basically have to work in order to live. It's expected that unless drastic changes are made, our generation will end up having a lower living standard than our parents, a first ever throughout US history.

Your thoughts on this? Did I get everything right?

 

The system can't be changed that easily, or it would have been changed years ago.

You can't change anyone's mind but your own. Hopefully along the way you'll find like-minded individuals that will restore your faith in humanity, but you can't force people to think the same way you do.

You can't live your life waiting for society to change. You have to grab life by the balls and go out there and achieve what you want to achieve, society be damned.

Be the change you wish to see in the world. -Ghandi.

 

Attempting to change others minds by force will only lead to resistance from others and frustration on your part. But by passively serving as an example from within, you can show others the opportunity to leave their troubles. This can be done by escaping, or staying and being a unique part of the system. Go with whatever feels is your best way of changing people's hearts. :love:

 

I feel like along this process land lost its value of well..being land (part of the earth). And became nothing more then stock. I feel like the capitalist/federal banking monster the 20's created has turned the planet into a single stock market in a sense. I think i might have just hit my own nail on the head there.

 

Awake this youngling become he has..

 

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.-Buddha

In order to change mankind one must dicover the truth of mind. It's universal and requires no force as truth is absolute.

 

Population is a big aspect of it. More people there are, the more chance someone else's got there before you.

 

Why can't land simply be stock?
Perhaps this is another assumption, but it seems to me that you place some sort of spiritual or intrinsic value in land being land, or it being part of the earth. But to other people that is not necessarily the case, and that not being the case isn't necessarily wrong either.
If you want to point fingers, perhaps you should look back even further, the Enlightenment maybe.

This is what the problem here is I believe. You want to marry your own personal spiritual views with society at large.
Not everyone thinks the way you do, and they aren't incorrect for not doing so.

 

As does everybody. It is the human dream, no? But I am a young human and do not comprehend all truth. But what I do know is that there ARE goals that are universal to all people and i want all people to have a chance to put them in motion. This is something the world lacks.

 

Could you be more specific?

 

What he says is true. We will never completely agree with any one set of values or truths. What yours may be will greatly differ from another's. What's important is that you realize that no matter how much of a difference you have with the world around you, you need to accept and tolerate all aspects of ideas. This doesn't mean you must give up your own, but you should respect others.

The developing of new ideas and alteration of old ones only helps our kind evolve and move on, in an ever changing world. We need every aspect, from the Walden to the Gatsby in shaping our world. It may sometimes come out for the better, other times for the worse, but at least it's always changing.

 

Positive progression in all walks of life. This is a basic uniformed want by all conscious beings.

 

"Positive progression"?
Couldn't that term be used honestly to describe the past 90 years?
When I said specific I really meant specific.

 

500 Africans die every 5 minutes of starvation. 98% of the world’s wealth is owned by 2% of the population. Millions of people live on only $2 a week. 700 million people have died from war alone in the last 100 years. I can go on and on. But basically we have not progressed positively at all over the last 100 years..

 

So 100 years of progress doesn't count unless every human is living a perfect fairy-tale life of contentedness?
You may not be satisfied with the current situation as it stands, but to deny 100 years of scientific, medical, and industrial progress is simply disingenuous. It's a shallow criticism that doesn't offer a realistic alternative.

 

Whats the use of it all if the living condition of earths population is at an all time low. What is positive about having human beings sloughterd and left to die on an almost industrial scale.