what happens when we die...

Worship the creation rather than the Creator...

 

when i die, im gonna die eating string cheese and fruitopia!

 

When you die, your spirit is set free, it will return to an embryo when it is ready to continue life in physical form.

 

People tend to dwell on the ideas of what's after death. It's our nature. Having conciousness is what seperates humans from other animals. This can be a plus for us most of the time, but when it comes to certain topics, such as this one, it can be a disadvantage. In my opinion, once we die its all over...there's nothing left. People have a hard time understanding and accepting this. People are afraid of what they don't understand...only because they have the ability to think about it. In turn, they come up with ideas and beliefs to make themselves feel more comfortable with the subject. When they do this, they let fear run their lives.

The human brain is a strange thing.

Why can't we just stop worrying, put the past and the future aside, and make it simple by living now?

I think everyone should live by one simple saying...

-Just Be-



sorry if it all doesnt make sense...its really late!

Peace!

 

What will be when we die ... the same as is right now ... but what is now.

I think when we die we jump out of the tracks of space and time that we believed were granted, stretching from a past to a future that looked quite as sure.

But being not time bound in a greater reality means just that we are already here, right in this moment, and never have been away and never have been somewhere else. There is no past and no future … we die right now. We are already dead. We are in all sorts of hells and heavens and some of us in a fools paradise. We are not yet even born. It does not really matter. What matters is that sometimes we sense that we are here … we are ... and sometimes when life feels strange we maybe just start to wonder, and remember.

When we die our complete life unrolls to our view in just one moment, much like a dream. And as we look we see with clarity all that we have learned and had desired to learn and all that felt missing and it is like doors that open to other insights and there is no limit. There are fine threads and cords like a living net of energy and we know we are connected with all that is from the very core of our being, and to know is just like to breath, and be, and become. It is all energy. It is all change.

So when we die we look on who we are and we understand from the depth of our being and there are no questions or doubts. It is now, at the very same moment. So who looks at whom ... and we look on everything and we see how we sit here on our computers and type and read and maybe scratch our head haha … holy shit yeah … we see and know ourselfes in the light of a greater reality where we unfold a lifetime from a timeless moment like kinda big bang, to stretch it towards infinity, creating time as a line to follow in wondrous process land. Time is energy too and flexible so we kinda expand it and fill it with awareness and it takes us on like a rushing stream. Yet while we reach out far into darkness we sometimes get lost and forget that this is not all. But then we created the search, and the missing sense, too. It is all now ……… and it is still all now.

When we pass on we look on ourselfes with such love and forgiveness and we see ourselfes in the light of the greater reality, and whole and complete. To love is the deepest desire and greatest lesson of all. It is what we do and strive to do. We may never know better than in the moment of transition. But all steps we create are just to find it is so. We are in transition all the time. Ok so ... I think there is not really such a thing as death. … yeah simple ….

Just some more thoughts but geez this got way longer than planned. And did anybody catch it anyway.

 

i dont really care what happens, as long as it happens, soon

 

I enjoy the way a surprise feels in the moment.
Awe inspiring and beyond words; being.

An expansiveness with tendrils of luminous awareness
resides just under the skin, waiting to shed its finite form.

This temple of skin, bones, nerves, organs, blood going in recursively,
to the fractal space between electrons or the path of strange quarks...
the body of conscious light is no less complex.

Death sheds the container not the contents.

One wonders of free and true will as the unfolding of Self continues; ever here, ever now.

Source remembering in time.

The doings of manifestation, continue beyond the physical into the etheric and causal... on and on, or in and in beyond the handy laptop of the mind into the pure home of light and sound. Beyond into the silent void, nothingness, to emerge in limitless clear lights without contour or distinction. Yes All Is. We are interconnected. After the cloak of mind is shed the I merges into the One sharing experiences as a collective awareness yet, retaining an energetic signature.

Caterpillars turning into Butterflies, Butterflies dissolving into Sunlight, Form returning to the Formless. Do not fear that you will lose your energetic signature for it takes diversity to make a choir, yet know that the light and sound current has always been, is now and will be immediate then. We all love to share a good movie, much like a fascinating dream.

 

I totally agree with this one:
http://www.astralvoyage.com/projection/afterlife.html

 

Dying is something I try not to think about too much...

The most likely theory to me is that once you die then it's over, forever. But the way I TRY to look at it is, I don't remember the eternity before I was born so I won't remember the eternity after I'm gone, and I won't remember that I had even lived in the first place. It's hard to grasp though when you're alive and conscious.

I wish I could believe in something. The best theory for me would be reincarnation. I don't want to live forever and I don't want to die forever either, so it's perfect. Plus some of the stories are pretty damn interesting, and almost convincing.

When I die I plan on donating my organs so that I can continue to live on in some way.

I'm starting to freak myself out now... I'm outta here.

 

First, things I don't get. You say 'once we die it's all over.' Maybe, I don't know, and want to know how you do. I assume it is just your opinion based on your life. I have seen lots of freaky stuff, so I am not so sure. And there is that 'moment of death' research case, where it was found that at the time of the last breath, the body loses 3/4 of an ounce in weight. Up until then, it loses 1 oz. per hour in vapor. I have also read some very hard to explain claims of reincarnation, where the child knew things about the deceased that only the deceased knew, or some things only the spouse knew.
Gertrude Stein wrote, "Dead is dead." and may very well be right. I think there is something afterwards, but I haven't been dead, so I cannot say I know for sure.

I do not fear death at all, since at least 20 years ago. Whatever happens, it has the potential to happen any moment, so I have decided not to dread it, but instead, to squeeze the most out of life till then.

I love your ending advice, esp. the quote "Just Be.", it reminds me of "Life Is." which I wrote down in my poetry journal over 20 years ago, and still like.

Buddha would agree with you to just help out and do what you can and don't worry about things you have no hope of comprehending anyway, at least until you get to see for yourself what happens.

 

There are two books out by Surgeons, which outline the amazing ways the receivers of hearts change to be more like the donors. It appears that the heart contains some form of memories. My favorite story is of a young woman whose boyfriend died right after a huge fight with her, and she wanted to meet the recipient to say sorry, and bye, to her boyfriend.
He was a young boy who did not speak english, and his mother agreed to the meeting. The woman started to say her apology, and used an expression the two of them had always used to say it's okay, forgiven, forgotten, etc.-
She said 'everything is copasetic.', and the mother freaked out... what is that word... I must know. When the woman explained it to her, the mother said that her son used that word constantly since the transplant, and no one they knew could tell her what it meant.

Cool, huh?

 

Written sometime in the 1800's

"So live your life that the fear of death can never enter your heart.
Trouble no one about their religion; respect others in their view, and demand that they respect yours.
Love your life, perfect your life, beautify all things in your life. Seek to make your life long and its purpose in the service of your people.
Prepare a noble death song for the day when you go over the great divide.
Always give a word or a sign of salute when meeting or passing a friend, even a stranger, when in a lonely place.
Show respect to all people and grovel to none.
When you arise in the morning give thanks for the food and for the joy of living. If you see no reason for giving thanks, the fault lies only in yourself.
Abuse no one and nothing, for abuse turns the wise ones to fools and robs the spirit of its vision.
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way.
Sing your death song and die like a hero going home."




Chief Tecumseh,


Shawnee Nation
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ALSO:
For anyone with the time............

Arthur William Edgar O'Shaughnessy. 1844-1881
"The Fountain of Tears"

 

Ah - Dr MacDougall, for a start he never even proved that there is a significant weight loss at the moment of death - only one of his 6 (only six, hardly a large sample), "patients" showed a weight loss as described (21 grams), 2 were excluded altogether for technical reasons, so his sample is now down to 4, one lost 3/8 of an ounce but then mysteriously regained that weight, and the other 2 lost large amounts of weight twice, once at the "moment" of death, and then again a few minutes later, does this mean they had 2 souls?

And then you have the complication of trying to decide when death actually occurs, does the soul leave the body when the body stops breathing? What if the person is kept alive by machine? Does it leave on brain death? etc etc etc

Nah - this is a myth, never proven, and probably never will be.

But yeah, i'm in the when you die, you die category. And i'm happy with that too.

 

I'm no doctor, so I'm sure there's more to it than this, but...

It seems to me that the loss of the weight is just the last breath of air exiting the lungs.

I don't know, just a thought.

 

Yes that's very cool to hear.

I see in the previous post you said you have seen some freaky things. Have you written about any of them in the forums so I can read about them? Sounds very interesting. Thanks brother.

 

I don'tcare if I die . The only thing that makes me depressed about it is seeing people I love die . As strange as it sounds I want to go before my parents . I know thats selfish to so I guess you could say I want to go right after them.

 

you're welcome, I will post some, and let you know. thank you

 

Thank you for the info. and I agree that it is all hard to know. I just have seen too many things that make me convinced we go on. But you may be right, or we both may be, since we are living different realities.
It is all open to question, and I have many conflicting theories myself, that I like.

 

i think about this all the time, alot, i cant help but be afraid of what its going to be like, i just hope that its quick and painless

thats all i ask

they say that the dying brain causes nightmares and what have you

humm.....

its going to happen sooner than we wish for

aging scares me enough let alone what happens afterwards,

i dont know if i will be able to cope with againg even

i really dont think so.,.


this is not good.

i hate to see death, i hate to see tombstones i cant stand any of it

getting more and more this way and rapidly so.,

i dont know what to do,

maybe i have crossed a point

there was an experience i had when i was 16 or 17, in a friends back yard, i wont say what we were doing but i lost consciousness due to lack of oxygen, it triggered a horrible nightmare that i will always remember,

it was not good at all

and i dont know how long this was occuring before they got me conscious again using garden hose

i couldnt walk or anything for a while after that they had to carry me into the house

the nightmare,,, it was not a good thing

wouldnt take very much text to describe it, but,.,,,


im not looking forward to my last moments

but i would stop thinking about it if things in this life quit declining and turn back around, found wqork again, had a special lady to be with always


i fear none of thats gonna happen, not at this rate

it could, if some miracle happens soon, i know it could

trying to find a way to grab it all but something is blocking me from grabbing it, i dont know what !

its so close, but i just cant, yet, so far,

im not religious or anything, we just exist, we are result of eons of evolution from tetrapods

we are so advanced mentally now that we can think about and worry about this,

highly doubt squirrels rabbits and such have any idea that one day they will be be poof lifeless.

but we can and do,

what dark star rising said yeah!

yep !

but it is so hard not to think about and worry about it

happens about every day!

how to stop it ??

 

I belive in eternal life, but I belive there is no place that is heaven or hell, nor does it have a form on its own. I belive our minds create our afterlife as much as our minds create reality in hypnosis or under a acid trip.
I belive death is a release form a fixed reality. The only thing objective is the communication between other minds and the collective of all that is,was,will be or could be (god). Some people mention grass fields and sunshine in their near death experiences, some describe cities of light etc. I think it all depends on ones wishes and expectations. It's like being a director (and the director of photography) of a movie where you are the main character.

this is what I belive