What does it say in the bible about...

It is missing the mark.

 

What mark?

 

The common Hebrew term translated “sin” is chat·ta’th′; in Greek the usual word is ha·mar·ti′a. In both languages the verb forms (Heb., cha·ta’′; Gr., ha·mar·ta′no) mean “miss,” in the sense of missing or not reaching a goal, way, mark, or right point. At Judges 20:16 cha·ta’′ is used, with a negative, to describe the Benjamites who were ‘slingers of stones to a hairbreadth and would not miss.’

 

Would it be an acceptable interpretation to say that to sin is to miss God's mark?

 

I would say that's about right, that's what it connotes to me. Having not reached God's expectations of me, missing the standards expected from me when I do something wrong.

 

It would depend on the context, seeing as Judges is talking about slingers of stones and not missing a target but to say sin is missing God' mark or the mark of perfection, would seem acceptable.

 

What if it means we simply fail to see the nature of the world as God created it?

 

That could be part of it but there seems to be more to it than that.

 

We can examine this perspective in relation to the whole story of sin and the remedy to it as provided by Christ.

First we have a world including man, created by God, Judged by God as good, very good.
May we state that this is the world as God created it.

Then we have a serpent, a liar, who convinces this man of God given radiance that he is unlike his creator but if he he takes on the capacity to distinguish good from evil, only then will he have the power of God.
May we state that now man sees a world which God did not create nor did he intend for us to have.

May we state that the world can only be as god created it and that the vision of a world and a man possessed of both good and evil is a lie, an illusion of truth.

May we state that the act of declaring a thing either good or evil we call judgment.

May we then state that mans judgment of the world, himself, and his brother constitutes the progenitor of all sin or original sin.

Now we can point to remedy to sin as provided by Christ.

For judgment I have come into the world, that the seeing may become blind that the blind may see.

May we state that man is forgiven as he relenquishes his judgment upon the world, his brother, and himself.

May we state that forgiveness is the mercy required by Christ for the redemption of the world, your brother, and yourself.

 

Right you are. Most people think you have to be perfect to be saved. But thats just all the media and rumor bs. Thats why most people don't even think about getting saved...

 

Nice try but nope.

If sin is simply failing to see the nature of the world as God created it?

Then it would be possible to correct that with out the need for Jesus' ransom sacrifice and both God and Jesus felt that was necessary.

 

Is it not the point that ransom and sacrifice was made, so that the ransom and sacrifice should end. That brother would no longer deem it necessary to call for his brothers blood.

If you claim this has occurred then why do you act as if it is something yet to be accomplished? Is not Christs sacrifice enough to satisfy your lust for blood, or would you see every man women and child on this planet crucified for the sake of sin for which you refuse forgiveness.

 

No.

My lust for Blood? What in the world are you talking about?

 

Weren't you told the wages of sin is death? Is Christ's demonstration not enough for you. When you accuse your brother of sin you call for his death.

Christ comes to teach you of your innocence in creation, and gives us a way to restore ourselves so that your father may have some sense of you, of the good thing of himself that he had given to you. God will take the last step in welcoming you home.

The command is love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you.
You cannot love what you condemn. You feel this is right to condemn, You feel that way because that is the way you were taught to believe. Now you must condemn in order to justify your unwillingness to forgive. It would be a violation of your belief.

Brother all things are forgiven save for blaspheme against the Holy Spirit.
All that faces you is to forgive yourself for being mistaken about the Holy Son of God.

 

Yes the wages of sin are death.

It wasn't a "demonstration".

I have accused no one of sin and call for no ones death.

We are not able to "restore" ourselves but we can put ourselves in line for "restoration".

Yes.

What in the world are talking about? I have condemned no one and in what way do you feel I'm not willing to forgive?

Yes, that is true.

Nothing to forgive, if I'm not mistaken. Perhaps it is you that is mistaken?

 

The life and teachings of Christ are demonstration and iteration of metaphysical principals. By metaphysical we mean, of the essential nature of reality. To teach us about the world as God created it and our relationship to it.

Perhaps I am mistaken. It appears to me, that the two statements above are in direct contradiction to each other. I am not sure then which one you are claiming for us.

 

Waterbrother states:

"We are not able to "restore" ourselves but we can put ourselves in line for "restoration"."

It is possible to sin no more as Jesus has commanded.

 

To teach us about the world as God created it and our relationship to it? Jesus was teaching us about our relationship with God not with the World.

You are mistaken. There is no contradiction.

 

Please show me the Scripture that says we can "restore ourselves".

 

Go and sin no more.