What do you think of the death penalty?

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  1. Naiwen

    Naiwen Member

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    I am in favour of it for certain crimes, serious ones like rape, murder... but as for others like stealing, and etc, I don't condone it.
     
  2. Deranged

    Deranged Senor Member

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    I think the death penalty is where the state executes someone for a crime
     
  3. McFuddy

    McFuddy Visitor

    I think the death penalty is where the state executes someone for a crime
     
  4. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Iranian soccer player sentenced to death after protesting against the death of Mahsa Amini (msn.com)
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    I'm bringing back this post for those who wish to elaborate.

    My understanding of the death penalty is mostly from feelings I have that originate in fear.

    If you remember what it was like as a young child to be afraid of the dark, or to have inordinate or irrational fear of something else (I remember for example when I was a child of 8 or 9 years; maybe younger, fearing heartless/vicious wolves even though we lived in suburban California), you might understand how I've come to agree with the premise of capital punishment; simply because I fear being murdered. In the 80s when I was growing up, I was the only Mexican kid my age I knew of. I was afraid of getting jumped. That led to my appreciation of deterrent justice.

    From sociology, we learn that capital punishment only works when it is swiftly implemented; like we see here in Iran. Sadly though, the punishment doesn't fit the crime.
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    My thoughts on the issue of Iran putting to death its people who are protesting against a life being unfairly taken are simply opposed.

    By Iran putting to death its citizens, in my heart it sets back Iran's progress as a civilized society and as a global leader in the Islamic world. It holds Iran back, honestly and places Islam in this barbaric category that perpetuates 1st world fear of the religion.

    Further, I don't think it helps Iran's citizens to appreciate or respect. It places their understanding of modernity at odds with their internalization of Islam. I want them to have both.
     
  5. Twogigahz

    Twogigahz Senior Member

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    Somehow I don't think that was Mohammed's intent to treat women like cattle. Another Animal Farm example of what suits those that stand to benefit.
     
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  6. granite45

    granite45 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    A lot in common with right wing zealots across the US and the noisy Republicans
     
  7. themnax

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    it has its place, but i think it takes more then a simple murder to fully justify.
    hate crimes with multiple victims and genocides would.
    and then only if it could be really really certain they have the right perp.
     
  8. scratcho

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    Anyone who kills or tortures children should be done away with like a rabid dog would be. There are other examples of useless ,twisted humans that need killing.How about whoever killed those 4 kids while they were sleeping in Idaho ? Bundy sure as hell deserved it.
     
  9. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    I think that unless the death penalty can be administered fairly, without prejudice or bias, then it violates prima facie our Constitutional 'equal protection' and 'due process' rights.
    The death penalty has never been administered fairly, without prejudice or bias.

    Race and the Death Penalty
     
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  10. The Thrash

    The Thrash God Emperor of Nowhereville

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    Numbers 33:35 shows God not only approves but commands the death penalty for murder. The command was given to the Jews but it is part of the universal moral laws.
     
  11. princess peedge

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    Nah, there are too many innocent people on death row. We know we've executed innocent people before. It's an imperfect system.

    Allowing the state to murder us in hopes they get it right doesn't sit right with me. Also, if you want some kind of ancient eye-for-an-eye revenge punishment for the person who killed your loved one, cool. I get it. But please don't make me be part of it.
     
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  12. Desos

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    Its terrible that people are wrongly convicted. But ask yourself: is it better for justice to be flawed or for there to be no justice at all? Certainly society is capable of twisting justice to an extent that it could no longer be called justice, but assuming that the flaws in the justice system are not major, then I think it would be better to have at least some form of justice.

    Serious crimes like murder should be established by 2 or 3 witnesses. I don't think that there are any other crimes that would warrant the death penalty. It is natural law. Murder pollutes the land and the only way it can be cleansed is by the blood of the murderer.
     
  13. granite45

    granite45 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Justice and the death penalty are not the same thing. And the flaws in the justice system are a lot more significant than the right wingers would have us believe. In much of America prejudices against minorities remain a BIG issue.
     
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  14. scratcho

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    I've watched a film about the Innocence Project. Seriously changed my mind about the death penalty in most cases. It's awful what some prosecutors and some police will do to get convictions and some won't even change their minds when DNA evidence proves someone absolutely innocent! I still feel that when someone rapes and kills a little boy or girl , that they need to be eliminated------HOWEVER----overzealous prosecutors need to pay a HEAVY price when they have been found out to have with held exculpatory evidence proving wrongdoing by them. I mean, some wrongfully accused have done 30 years and more ----and were later proven innocent.
     
  15. wilsjane

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    If a person murders their partner purely to benefit from their life insurance or their property, or to allow them to enter into another relationship, then I think that the death penalty is fine.

    If however, it is the partner who has been provoking them by infidelity or by destroying the family setup, then the death penalty should not be allowed.

    People who murder complete strangers to steal or for sexual gratification should definitely face the death penalty.
     
  16. scratcho

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    The present: The nurse in The UK that killed 7 babies and attempted to kill 6 more caught "red handed." The man here in the US that molested a 6 year old and the woman that filmed herself sexually abusing her OWN 1 year old and her 3 year old child and sold films of her doing so----THESE ARE UNDISPUTED CHARGES AND DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, IMO.

    The lady in the UK injected air , insulin and other chemicals into the babies. She deserves to live --to watch tv--to eat--to have sex--to exercise--or ANYTHING ELSE?? HELL NO. What would be lost if people like these were gone ??
     
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